Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Dec 2006 17:57 UTC
Features, Office Adobe may already own the market for electronic documents thanks to PDF, but the company knows that Microsoft has a habit of showing up late to the party and stealing the crown. In turn, Adobe is beta testing a new project it calls 'Mars', which is an answer to Microsoft's new XPS format.
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RE: lol
by alcibiades on Thu 14th Dec 2006 19:06 UTC in reply to "lol"
alcibiades
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2005-10-12

Its a bit more complicated no? I thought the problem for Adobe was having it included at no additional charge. They wanted a charge levied, so that their own solution would be competitive. Maybe someone better informed would correct if this is wrong.

But if this is true, it is a bit muddier than it first looked, and it rather casts doubt on the opennness of pdf. What the opennness of Mars will be is another question, but perhaps we should be wary?

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RE[2]: lol
by CPUGuy on Thu 14th Dec 2006 19:16 in reply to "RE: lol"
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2005-07-06

What makes it even muddier is that Apple is allowed to do it at no cost, and they have it built into OSX. Adobe got mad at Microsoft for including it in Office 2007, and as n4cer said, is now a separate download.

One thing that is NOT muddy... PDF is NOT an open format, despite what everyone believes.

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RE[3]: lol
by segedunum on Thu 14th Dec 2006 19:38 in reply to "RE[2]: lol"
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2005-07-06

One thing that is NOT muddy... PDF is NOT an open format

And just what is that based on?

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RE[4]: lol
by GrapeGraphics on Thu 14th Dec 2006 19:52 in reply to "RE[2]: lol"
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2005-07-07

Apple paid Adobe for the use of the PDF engine. Believe you me, Adobe just don't give away that much for free (image composter etc.).

Jb

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RE[3]: lol
by dylansmrjones on Thu 14th Dec 2006 20:28 in reply to "RE[2]: lol"
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2005-10-02

PDF _is_ an open format, despite what MS-zealots wants everybody to believe.

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RE[3]: lol
by mcmv200i on Thu 14th Dec 2006 20:28 in reply to "RE[2]: lol"
mcmv200i Member since:
2006-12-14

PDF is NOT an open format, despite what everyone believes.

This is not 100% true:
Proper subsets of PDF have been, or are being, standardized under ISO for several constituencies. Further details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF.

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