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tmack
Member since:
2006-04-11

I don't see it as "ripping off," everyone knew these type of display technologies were coming.

Apple just did it earlier than everyone else.

Edited 2006-12-15 12:13

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Considering they've been showing this stuff off since PDC03 and probably had it internally under development earlier I don't think it's very fair to say it's copying just because someone was able to push it out of the door faster.

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REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

I agree that there really is not such thing as copying in the harmful way, if there is a useful new feature that one OS has it will be adopted by others, i think of it more as evolution.

However one thing to bear in mind, is that a lot of people always say that microsoft had this at PDC 03/04 etc.. However that doesn't mean to say that apple didn't have the idea at the same time or even earlier, but had not been able to implement it in their OS, just like Microsoft.

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GrapeGraphics Member since:
2005-07-07

"Considering they've been showing this stuff off since PDC03"

... and considering they scrapped most of that (Longhorn) and re-grouped to write Vista...

MS seems to announce features as soon as they think of 'em while Apple waits until they've actually implemented them.

(it's not the coders, it's management!!)

IMHO Jb

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REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

I agree that there really is not such thing as copying in the harmful way, if there is a useful new feature that one OS has it will be adopted by others, i think of it more as evolution.

However one thing to bear in mind, is that a lot of people always say that microsoft had this at PDC 03/04 etc.. However that doesn't mean to say that apple didn't have the idea at the same time or even earlier, but had not been able to implement it in their OS, just like Microsoft.

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Duffman Member since:
2005-11-23

Well, there is a big difference between using the same technologies (which is normal), and totally rip an application until copying the application layout and color ...

Edited 2006-12-15 13:23

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Deviate_X Member since:
2005-07-11

These features that people are claiming were copied by Microsoft from OSX - AND Innovated by Apple - have existed for along time before either OS came _bundled_ with them.

* Indexed Search, Gadgets (OSX Widgets), Calendar, and 3D Chess *

It should also be noted that:

1. Indexed Search existed, built into Windows (NT4+) in different forms long before it came to OSX.

2. OSX Widgets require a jarring full screen switch to even see or use while Windows Vista Gadgets are gracefully and simply integrated into the sidebar. They actually function quite differently.

3. When talking about Calendars one should also remember Outlook Calendar. Its fair to assume microsoft noticed the utility and simplicity of the apple implementation - however the concept belongs squarely with Outlook.

4. 3D Chess - you may have a point since Microsoft has much to learn from OS X about gaming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony)

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collinm Member since:
2005-07-15

indexed search existed in beos

Widgets existed on amiga

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