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Member since:2005-07-06
Some people should think before they open their mouths.
Last time I checked more people use AIM and ICQ than use Google's chat program.
Thing is, these days there are _very_ meny people who just don't care what is the network/protocol behind their IM software, since they use IM clients which can connect to some, more or all of the existing IM networks (a lot of quality clientes exist for this purpose, for a lot of OSes). The number of users thus doesn't really show real preference, it mostly shows how many AOL users there have been, and how many other people just registered a nick to be present on the network to be accessible by these people who just wouldn't want to use another.
Didn't Google already have a video service?
Yupp. But how exactly do you think they were similar ? Because they both made videos accessible ? Well, I guess that was it and nothing more. Besides, Google most certainly didn't buy YouTube because of the service - they have bright enough coders - but because of the userbase. Which makes sense, given.
Member since:2005-06-29
Apple's iChat is integrated with one of the largest IM networks in the world. Last time I checked more people use AIM and ICQ than use Google's chat program.
The problem with Messenger protocols is not which gets used the most in the world, but which gets used in your country (and hence, gets used by your friends). In The Netherlands, for instance, MSN has a 99.99% marketshare, and chatting is not called instant messaging or something similar, no, it's called "MSN'ing". I kid you not. AIM, ICQ, Y! are all non-existant here.
And to reply to someone else's post:
Thing is, these days there are _very_ meny people who just don't care what is the network/protocol behind their IM software, since they use IM clients which can connect to some, more or all of the existing IM networks (a lot of quality clientes exist for this purpose, for a lot of OSes).
In The Netherlands, I have yet to encounter anyone outside of myself using anything other than the default MSN client.
Member since:2006-01-17
I've been using most instant messaging platforms since their individual respective inceptions.
People care about networks - sorry that this doesn't fit in to the "everybody wants standards" mentality but it is very much the truth. In my experience people choose the network their friends are on and I base that on a multitude of experiences with a variety of users met under an even wider variety of circumstances.
I am familiar with multi-protocol clients. I've used Fire, then Proteus, then AdiumX, and then back to Proteus. Their support for most network features is dismal at best and is always behind the proprietary clients in terms of feature availability.
As for Google's video service - I'll admit I don't know too much about it as I've never used it extensively. Same goes for YouTube. At first YT had a cool factor but it has since been doused in stupidity and is no longer worth much of my time. Aside from that isn't flash supported on some handsets? Doesn't YT use flash for playback? Doesn't that mean some handsets already provide that service?
It's not new or unique like a combination of the best of breed digital audio device with your cell phone. It doesn't really bring anything new to the table.
Member since:2005-10-11
Member since:2005-10-31
Apple's iChat is integrated with one of the largest IM networks in the world. Last time I checked more people use AIM and ICQ than use Google's chat program.
Google Talk's protocol is nothing more than Jabber, which is an open standard for communications. If that wasn't enough, there are tons of jabber servers out there that offer transport services to other chat services like IRC, MSN, AIM, ICQ, Gadu-Gadu, etc... So in the end it is obvious that whoever accesses Google Talk is capable of accessing more IM networks than whoever uses iChat.
Some people should think before they open their mouths.
Indeed and, although your ignorance kept you from geting it, your post is a very good example of that. Therefore, please at least try to follow your own advices in the future
Member since:2006-01-17
GreatBunzinni,
First of all you make a great deal of assumptions about my personal level of knowledge. A pretty grievous error on your part.
Google uses Jabber but Jabber is _just_ software, it's not a network. Does Google not run a Jabber based network? How many people are on _that_ network specifically?
Furthermore you make a point about Jabber gateways. Are these even supported by the Google Jabber network or do you have to opt for another Jabber based network?
I never said a user of one service had more or less access to networks.
I suggested one network had more users.
If you can't even follow such a simple point as that I really doubt that I've any further interest in debating the matter with you.
Member since:2005-07-16
Google Talk's protocol is nothing more than Jabber, which is an open standard for communications. If that wasn't enough, there are tons of jabber servers out there that offer transport services to other chat services like IRC, MSN, AIM, ICQ, Gadu-Gadu, etc... So in the end it is obvious that whoever accesses Google Talk is capable of accessing more IM networks than whoever uses iChat.
And considering that iChat can also connect to a jabber server, your point is what, exactly ?
Member since:2005-07-15
Member since:2005-07-06
Apple's iChat is integrated with one of the largest IM networks in the world. Last time I checked more people use AIM and ICQ than use Google's chat program.
I would bloody well hope so! ICQ has been around forever and AIM has been around since at least '98/99. And until recently, the only way to sign up for Google chat was to get an invite from an existing gmail user (although now I believe they will send the invitation codes to a cell # as a text message).
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2006-01-17
Some people should think before they open their mouths.
Apple's iChat is integrated with one of the largest IM networks in the world. Last time I checked more people use AIM and ICQ than use Google's chat program.
Granted maps and the searching but Apple has video and television content on iTunes. Honestly I'd rather pass the hour watching Jericho than watching some fat idiot make a fool of himself on YouTube. Didn't Google already have a video service? They had to buy to get something worth having because multimedia isn't as easy as it looks.
Apple also supports a large mail network, .mac, with some several hundreds of thousands of PAYING users. A different model than Google's ad driven systems but even so it is a large and capable network.
The .mac based services would integrate exceptionally well with a phone. Google are UI noobs to be quite frank. They've done a few good things but Apple has decades of experience with the best UIs in the market.