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RE[3]: Makes Sense
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 17th Dec 2006 12:56 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Makes Sense"
Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

Apple's iChat is integrated with one of the largest IM networks in the world. Last time I checked more people use AIM and ICQ than use Google's chat program.

The problem with Messenger protocols is not which gets used the most in the world, but which gets used in your country (and hence, gets used by your friends). In The Netherlands, for instance, MSN has a 99.99% marketshare, and chatting is not called instant messaging or something similar, no, it's called "MSN'ing". I kid you not. AIM, ICQ, Y! are all non-existant here.

And to reply to someone else's post:

Thing is, these days there are _very_ meny people who just don't care what is the network/protocol behind their IM software, since they use IM clients which can connect to some, more or all of the existing IM networks (a lot of quality clientes exist for this purpose, for a lot of OSes).

In The Netherlands, I have yet to encounter anyone outside of myself using anything other than the default MSN client.

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RE[4]: Makes Sense
by zegenie on Sun 17th Dec 2006 13:21 in reply to "RE[3]: Makes Sense"
zegenie Member since:
2005-12-31

In The Netherlands, for instance, MSN has a 99.99% marketshare, and chatting is not called instant messaging or something similar, no, it's called "MSN'ing". I kid you not. AIM, ICQ, Y! are all non-existant here.

Which is also true for Norway, and as you say - probably most other european countries as well.

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RE[5]: Makes Sense
by Kroc on Sun 17th Dec 2006 13:35 in reply to "RE[4]: Makes Sense"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

And the UK too. MSN is literally a verb. AIM is absolutely unheard of.

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RE[5]: Makes Sense
by Doc Pain on Mon 18th Dec 2006 14:01 in reply to "RE[4]: Makes Sense"
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2006-10-08

From my personal experience - I live in Germany - the central european countries' Hans W. Averages tend to prefer ICQ over MSN. "What's your UIN?" is a popular question. Furthermore, Jabber and PSI (that supports many IM types) and even IRC are used for IM purposes, but only by the higher educated ones who know what they're doing. :-)

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RE[4]: Makes Sense
by RandomGuy on Sun 17th Dec 2006 14:05 in reply to "RE[3]: Makes Sense"
RandomGuy Member since:
2006-07-30

That's very strange. Do you rely on statistics or are you just judging by peronal experience?
Everybody I know uses ICQ and some of them also use Skype. Nearly nobody uses MSN, though I do know some guys who don't know what it is or how to switch it off permanently ;)
Since I'm from Germany I suppose market share figures should be somehow similar.

Do you have any links to statistics about the market share of MSN?
Otherwise your impression may be just as biased as mine.

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RE[5]: Makes Sense
by kmarius on Mon 18th Dec 2006 04:55 in reply to "RE[4]: Makes Sense"
kmarius Member since:
2005-06-30

I have seen statistics from Norway (no link, sorry), and MSN had most of the IM-users there.

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RE[4]: Makes Sense
by Phloptical on Sun 17th Dec 2006 14:49 in reply to "RE[3]: Makes Sense"
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2006-10-10

MSN'ing, huh? I believe that's the first Microsoft product that has turned into a verb.

Probably hot in Europe since they didn't have access to AOL back in the day.

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RE[5]: Makes Sense
by arielb on Mon 18th Dec 2006 02:08 in reply to "RE[4]: Makes Sense"
arielb Member since:
2006-11-15

not surprising considering AOL means America Online.

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RE[6]: Makes Sense
by Soulbender on Mon 18th Dec 2006 08:27 in reply to "RE[4]: Makes Sense"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"Probably hot in Europe since they didn't have access to AOL back in the day."

No-one outside the U.S ever really did use AOL, it was always local ISP's. I've always found the notion of AOL as an "Internet powerhouse" somewhat laughable.

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RE[4]: Makes Sense
by Adam S on Sun 17th Dec 2006 15:09 in reply to "RE[3]: Makes Sense"
Adam S Member since:
2005-04-01

I have yet to encounter anyone outside of myself using anything other than the default MSN client.

I have: you.

People can and do change software when there's a need. The ground is equal right now, but in time, that can change.

Edited 2006-12-17 15:09

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RE[5]: Makes Sense
by Soulbender on Mon 18th Dec 2006 08:30 in reply to "RE[4]: Makes Sense"
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2005-08-18

"The ground is equal right now, but in time, that can change."

Indeed. Once upon a time there was a LOT of different proprietary email systems; x.400, Lotus ccMail, Microsoft Mail, Uniplex etc etc. Today they're mostly gone, left in the dust by SMTP.

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RE[4]: Makes Sense
by XemonerdX on Mon 18th Dec 2006 11:59 in reply to "RE[3]: Makes Sense"
XemonerdX Member since:
2005-07-03

In The Netherlands, I have yet to encounter anyone outside of myself using anything other than the default MSN client.

I still use ICQ (besides MSN, Yahoo & Jabber) and I'm from the Netherlands, as long as I still have friends on a certain protocol, why abandon it? I only use the default MSN client at work, at home I use Miranda-IM (under Windows) & Gaim (under Linux). And I know plenty of ppl here who use different clients (Trillian being the most prominent one among friends who don't use MSN). Maybe you just don't know that many ppl? ;)

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RE[4]: Makes Sense
by yoursecretninja on Mon 18th Dec 2006 13:56 in reply to "RE[3]: Makes Sense"
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2006-01-02

Canada too. Well at least here in Southern Ontario. ICQ used to be really popular in the late 90s/early 2000s... but now MSN is the most widely used messenger service.

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