Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Dec 2006 22:29 UTC, submitted by John Mills
Novell and Ximian Jeremy Allison (of Samba fame) has resigned from Novell in protest over the Microsoft-Novell patent agreement, which he calls 'a mistake' which will be 'damaging to Novell's success in the future'. His main issue with the deal, though, is "that even if it does not violate the letter of the licence, it violates the intent of the GPL licence the Samba code is released under, which is to treat all recipients of the code equally." He leaves the company at the end of this month.
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twenex
Member since:
2006-04-21

then what do we make of the Linux kernel developers, especially Linus Torvalds, who do not find issue with it? I think it speaks volumes about how the Linux kernel developers have now been bought out by corporate interests (and their anti GPL v3 stance).

Not so fast. First, I don't know if any of the Linux maintainers work for Novell, thus they can't resign from Novell if they don't. Second, the Linux kernel maintainers may truly believe this isn't a problem. I personally disagree with them, but we have a right to disagree with each other.

We're supposed to be lauding JA for using his mind and speaking it, not for being Blair to our Bush.

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melkor Member since:
2006-12-16

I'm merely indicating the point that Jeremy is able to realise how dangerous the Microsoft/Novell deal is, and how it breaks the spirit and intent of the GPL.

Sure, the Linux kernel developers might not think that it doesn't break the spirit of the GPL, but in all honesty, they're at odds with the wider community. Doesn't that really make you question their motives? And to be honest, I think that I rightly have the right to question the intent and morals of the current Linux kernel developer community.

I also think it's quite fair to draw a parallel between what Jeremy sees is wrong and right, and what the kernel developers feel about the very same issue (they see no problem with the Microsoft/Novell deal as a generalisation). I can only reiterate that this is worrying.

Dave

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twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Sure, the Linux kernel developers might not think that it doesn't break the spirit of the GPL, but in all honesty, they're at odds with the wider community.

That may be true, but they're still allowed an opinion. I don't remember them saying that it doesn't break the spirit. But I DO remember Stallman saying that it doesn't contravene the letter.

Doesn't that really make you question their motives?
I question the decisions of the LKD's on many an occasion, not always publicly. But since I have no evidence that they're being bought off, for now I'll shut it on the issue.

And to be honest, I think that I rightly have the right to question the intent and morals of the current Linux kernel developer community.

Which makes you sound as if you're saying you have more right than I do. Why is that?

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dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

Linus and many of the kernel developers have different motives than the Free Software crowd, nobody has ever made any secret of this. Just because their motives are different doesn't make them wrong.

Linus wants to make the best possible kernel and make sure it is as useful as possible to as many people as possible, beyond that he is largely apolitical. This has always been the case, why should it all of a sudden become worrying now?

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SEJeff Member since:
2005-11-05

Ever heard of robert love? Last I checked... he wrote inotify much of the hotplug infrastructure... a few books on kernel programming... etc.

http://rlove.org

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twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

I hadn't, but even if I had heard of him before Microvel, the following sentence would be enough to "disendear" him to me:

I wrote a book, Linux Kernel Development, a tour de force on hacking and understanding the Linux kernel, now in its second edition. You should help feed my starving family and buy a copy or two and carry them with you everywhere you go.

Self-aggrandisement is uncool, even if you are a genius.

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melkor Member since:
2006-12-16

And I fail to understand your point?

Dave

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somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

I personally disagree with them, but we have a right to disagree with each other.

Damn, this one was on topic:) At the moment I read this, the famous "We agree that we disagree..." from MS answer to Novell popped in my brain and is there to stay for today:)

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