Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Dec 2006 22:29 UTC, submitted by John Mills
Novell and Ximian Jeremy Allison (of Samba fame) has resigned from Novell in protest over the Microsoft-Novell patent agreement, which he calls 'a mistake' which will be 'damaging to Novell's success in the future'. His main issue with the deal, though, is "that even if it does not violate the letter of the licence, it violates the intent of the GPL licence the Samba code is released under, which is to treat all recipients of the code equally." He leaves the company at the end of this month.
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Standing behind what?
by cjcox on Thu 21st Dec 2006 23:11 UTC
cjcox
Member since:
2006-12-21

Mr. Allison leaves one company that has many patents (and appears to be moving away from the idea of patents) to another that is actively creating more and more patents??

Jeremy must be pro-patent after all. Probably upset that Novell isn't more pro-patent. ;)

Not sure what motivates Mr. Allison. I'm going to guess he's just a hot-head. Mad because Novell did a deal with Microsoft (didn't matter what kind of deal).

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RE: Standing behind what?
by twenex on Thu 21st Dec 2006 23:19 in reply to "Standing behind what?"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Mr. Allison leaves one company that has many patents (and appears to be moving away from the idea of patents) to another that is actively creating more and more patents??

Jeremy must be pro-patent after all. Probably upset that Novell isn't more pro-patent. ;)

Not sure what motivates Mr. Allison. I'm going to guess he's just a hot-head. Mad because Novell did a deal with Microsoft (didn't matter what kind of deal).


OK, name one company that ISN'T creating software patents (hint: even Redhat is doing it, if only for protective purposes). If there are none, then the only way he could choose not to support a company is by not working. Do you seriously think that would improve the situation?

In contrast, he is moving to a company that is not "circumventing" the GPL and is openly releasing this and that as FOSS.

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RE: Standing behind what?
by somebody on Thu 21st Dec 2006 23:28 in reply to "Standing behind what?"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

Mr. Allison leaves one company that has many patents (and appears to be moving away from the idea of patents) to another that is actively creating more and more patents??

Jeremy must be pro-patent after all. Probably upset that Novell isn't more pro-patent. ;)

Not sure what motivates Mr. Allison. I'm going to guess he's just a hot-head. Mad because Novell did a deal with Microsoft (didn't matter what kind of deal).


Why do I get the feeling that cjcox is NotParker or at least new NotParker? One being suspended few days ago and one posting his first post at the same level of intellectual misinterpretation of his own twisted misinterpretation called thoughts.

For gods sake...
What would patents have in common with JA working for some company? I guess you think it goes like this:

[company]: We'd like to hire you
[JA]: How many patents do you own?
[company]: A lot...
[JA]: Well, company XYZ that offered me job, has 34534 patents. Can you beat this number?

No, it doesn't matter deal was with MS, otherwise he wouldn't spend better part of his life to work on interoperability with their systems.

No, he's not hot head, if you'd know a little bit about JA, you'd know that he's everything but that.


btw. congrats to Jeremy on having stance and personality

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RE: Standing behind what?
by mcmv200i on Fri 22nd Dec 2006 12:27 in reply to "Standing behind what?"
mcmv200i Member since:
2006-12-14

Mr. Allison leaves one company that has many patents (and appears to be moving away from the idea of patents) to another that is actively creating more and more patents??

Exactly!

And

* Google supports the chinese governments' censorship
* Google releases the "google search bar" which should be better called "google spy bar" since it loves to -- indeed -- "search" your computer but phone home to google and tell them about what it found out.
* they release a lot of proprietary software.

In contrast:
* Nearly every software company does so: software patents + proprietary software (even most of the FLOSS companies, as mentioned in other postings here)
* Google has its "Summer of Code" which I think is a great contribution to the community
* Google releases some great FLOSS projects from time to time (like its Web developer kit)

So I think, all in all, this whole thing shouldnt be seen to black and white. See also my posting below.

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RE: Standing behind what?
by mcmv200i on Fri 22nd Dec 2006 12:28 in reply to "Standing behind what?"
mcmv200i Member since:
2006-12-14

sorry, posted twice

Edited 2006-12-22 12:29

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