Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Dec 2006 22:29 UTC, submitted by John Mills
Novell and Ximian Jeremy Allison (of Samba fame) has resigned from Novell in protest over the Microsoft-Novell patent agreement, which he calls 'a mistake' which will be 'damaging to Novell's success in the future'. His main issue with the deal, though, is "that even if it does not violate the letter of the licence, it violates the intent of the GPL licence the Samba code is released under, which is to treat all recipients of the code equally." He leaves the company at the end of this month.
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RE[4]: Sounds Great but..
by trenchsol on Fri 22nd Dec 2006 12:24 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Sounds Great but.."
trenchsol
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2006-12-07

I don't think so, because everybody has their own view of right and wrong. Where would it take us ? Every employee would enforce her/his on policy.

You obviously don't approve Microsoft-Novell deal. Do you hold other Novell employees responsible ? Or Microsoft employees ?

Well, if someone abslolutely can't live with employers policies, then the best way is to resign, like mr. Allison did. But, he should not expect Google to make business the way he wants them to. If he does, he would, most likely, be dissapointed again.

DG

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RE[5]: Sounds Great but..
by twenex on Fri 22nd Dec 2006 12:32 in reply to "RE[4]: Sounds Great but.."
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

I don't think so, because everybody has their own view of right and wrong. Where would it take us ? Every employee would enforce her/his on policy.

Well, unless they enforce policy by consensus. Or majority vote. As you suggest, however, if they don't agree with a company's policy they can resign (which is what Allison did).

You obviously don't approve Microsoft-Novell deal. Do you hold other Novell employees responsible ? Or Microsoft employees ?

Well, unless they're going to claim the tooth fairy did it. And I choose to believe them.

But, he should not expect Google to make business the way he wants them to. If he does, he would, most likely, be dissapointed again.

That's hypothetical. The fact that Novell made a decision he didn't agree with, isn't.

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RE[6]: Sounds Great but..
by trenchsol on Fri 22nd Dec 2006 13:21 in reply to "RE[5]: Sounds Great but.."
trenchsol Member since:
2006-12-07

I don't believe that you will ever have the opportunity to see an enterprise being driven by the consensus of employees. That could happen on Debian project, and even they have problems with that. No offense, but you are probably not in a situation to need to work for living.

Well, unless they're going to claim the tooth fairy did it. And I choose to believe them.

I find your views as extreeme. They will not get you very far. I don't see the point in continuing this discussion.

DG

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RE[5]: Sounds Great but..
by DeadFishMan on Fri 22nd Dec 2006 12:46 in reply to "RE[4]: Sounds Great but.."
DeadFishMan Member since:
2006-01-09

Get over it, trechsol! If you donīt feel like working for a company for any given reason, then youīre entirely within your rights to say "Be damned!" and look for something else. Iīve done it in more than one occasion.

Itīs not a matter of trying to push your ethics (or morals as you put earlier) onto the upper management since he probably could not do it anyway. It can happens for any reason: salary disputes, bad relationship with co-workers or managers, etc.

And any responsible person who has a family to feed would have another job lined up before resigning his current one. Thatīs just good sense.

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RE[6]: Sounds Great but..
by trenchsol on Fri 22nd Dec 2006 13:08 in reply to "RE[5]: Sounds Great but.."
trenchsol Member since:
2006-12-07

Get over it, trechsol! If you donīt feel like working for a company for any given reason, then youīre entirely within your rights to say "Be damned!" and look for something else. Iīve done it in more than one occasion.

I agree, I've changed 5 IT jobs befor starting my own business. But, I am not talking about was it right or wrong, but is it wise or not.

Can you expect companies to do the work the wat you want them to ? Are the moral objections important enough to make you leave the company, if you are satisfied with other things ?

I admitt that I would stay with the company.

DG

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