Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 23rd Dec 2006 00:48 UTC, submitted by dumbkiwi
KDE This is a response to the article yesterday on the progress of GNOME and KDE. Aaron Seigo, a lead KDE developer, sets out the current state of progress with KDE 4, pointing out that KDE 4 is on track for a release in mid 2007. "Thom points to a quote from me that our goal is to have a 4.0 ready sometime in the first half of next year. That gives us until sometime in June and I'm still thinking we can make it."
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Another response
by thebluesgnr on Sat 23rd Dec 2006 14:35 UTC
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Below is my own reply to the recent article published by OSNews:

In 2001, both Apple and Microsoft released their last major revisions; Apple released Mac OS X 10.0 on March 24, while Microsoft followed shortly after with Windows XP on October. For the proprietary desktop, therefore, 2001 was an important year. Since then, we have continiously been fed point releases and service packs which added bits of functionaility and speed improvements, but no major revision has yet seen the light of day. What's going on?

Both Apple and Microsoft have some serious problems which cannot be solved easily. Cocoa and Objective-C have an alarming shortage of industry adoption, and you do not need a degree at MIT to understand what that means: less quality assurance, and a slower bug fixing pace. Cocoa of course is the base on which Mac OS X is built, and hence any problems with it will have their effects on Mac OS.

The second big problem with Mac OS is that it lacks any form of a vision, a goal, for the next big revision. Mac OS XI is not even that- a name. There is not even one line of code for Mac OS XI, not even a goal or feature description. All Mac OS XI has are some random ideas by random people in random places. There is nobody actually working on defining what Mac OS XI should become, and hence the chances that Mac OS XI sees any light of day in the coming two years is highly dubious. Mac OS XI is supposed to be a radical departure from Mac OS X-current, and you just don't do something like that in a 12 month release cycle. Mac OS XI won't be on your desktop until at least 2009, which will mean that by then, Mac OS will not have seen a major revision in 8 years.

On the other side of the river the future may seem a little brighter, but do not let appearances fool you. Microsoft might have had a vision for what Windows Vista should have become, but with vision alone you will not actually get anywhere. Microsoft developers were indeed planning big things for Vista-- but that is not what they delivered. Show me what the results are. Vista was supposed to be outdated out by now, with a release somewhere in 2003. However, if you now take a look at the latest Vista build-- it is just XP, but uglier. We've been hearing WinFS this and NGSCB that for a very long time now; however, nothing solid has emerged.

In the meantime, the competition has not exactly been standing still. GNOME has continuously been improving its desktop, adding new and sometimes even innovative features, while also increasing the desktop's speed with every release. GNOME 2.18 is scheduled for the first half of 2007, and even though what we have been showed so far is not really revolutionary, some previously 'top secret' features such as compiz are maturing quite fastly. I think GNOME's recent track record in delivering allows us to believe this.

KDE has not been resting on its laurels either. KDE 4 builds are already available for testers and developers. Many anti-FOSS trolls complain that KDE 4 is nothing more than KDE 3 with a new Qt version, but anyone with an open mind who followed it for a short period of time (including me) realises this is absolutely not the case-- in any case, we can say that all people used to KDE 3 will definitely view KDE 4 as a major upgrade, and in the end, that is what really matters.

The proprietary software world will not have any answers ready to GNOME's and KDE's big releases for at least the coming five years. Has the proprietary bubble burst? I would not go as far as saying that; however, it is certainly about to, and unless the Microsoft and Apple teams get a move on, it will do so shortly.
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RE: Another response
by smitty on Sun 24th Dec 2006 06:39 in reply to "Another response"
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Sometimes I wish we could mod posts up to +10 or +20 instead of just +5. If you haven't read the post I'm replying to yet, then do so now!

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