Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 23rd Dec 2006 00:48 UTC, submitted by dumbkiwi
KDE This is a response to the article yesterday on the progress of GNOME and KDE. Aaron Seigo, a lead KDE developer, sets out the current state of progress with KDE 4, pointing out that KDE 4 is on track for a release in mid 2007. "Thom points to a quote from me that our goal is to have a 4.0 ready sometime in the first half of next year. That gives us until sometime in June and I'm still thinking we can make it."
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RE[7]: Looking forward to KDE4
by boudewijn on Sat 23rd Dec 2006 15:45 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Looking forward to KDE4"
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The MS OpenXML format is open -- but it is full of problems. Like codifying twenty-year old Excel bugs (did you know Excel still uses the Julian calendar, as obsoleted by Pope Gregory?), things like the -- copyrighted! -- border graphics for Word (all two hundred of them). People inside Microsoft and Adobe have computed that it will take about 50 man years to implement support for the OpenXML wordprocessor subformat _alone_. Basically, from lock-in through secrecy we've gone to lock-in through overload.

Simply put: writing import/export filters for MS Office file formats is not something that's doable for volunteer hackers. The formats are designed to make that hard. If we had a bag of money we'd probably use it to out-source the development of GPL, library based filters, but we haven't got a bag of money.

For KOffice 2.0, better MS file format is not a goal. If you get an MS Word document that KWord's quite adequate import filter (it's better than the one Pages has...) cannot handle, convert it to ODF with OpenOffice, then work in KWord. We believe that KWord will be so much more fun and pleasant to use, that that'll be acceptable to many people.

We cannot be all things to all people, and we prefer to do one thing good: make a suite of application that are fun to use, that help people create, put their thoughts on paper and organize their business. There are many cases (and many current users) who do exactly that. We are glad that there's OpenOffice for when better MS file format compatibility is needed.

(That said, one of the main problems with the old MS Word importer isn't actually with the importer, which can handle anything but a particular kind of graphics, but the KWord table and layout code. Now that code is going to be completely rewritten and the result may well be that the importer suddenly starts working a lot better.)

Boudewijn Rempt, Krita maintainer

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