Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 23rd Dec 2006 17:40 UTC
Linux "I recently read a story that asked, 'Has the Desktop Linux Bubble Burst?' Burst!? No, I don't think so. Actually, it still isn't even half as big as it will be when it's full. The author goes on to explain that he feels this way because GNOME 'lacks any form of a vision', while KDE4 is full of wonderful ideas, but not enough money and effort behind turning concepts into code. I don't see that at all. I think both popular Linux desktop environments are making good progress."
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RE[5]: Of course it is!
by tmack on Sun 24th Dec 2006 06:37 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Of course it is!"
tmack
Member since:
2006-04-11

Actually, you're missing most of the process with Mac OS X app folders.

With Linux, that one click includes getting the software on my PC. I do not have to download the program from some website or put a disc in the drive.

That one click goes through all 3 phases:

1) Download the software
2) Prepare the software for installation
3) Install the software

Mac OSX only does the last one easily. And I'm not saying Mac OS X is terrible at software installation, it just isn't anywhere near as good as your average end user Linux distro.

A modern linux distro is as polished as Mac OS X. A colleague and I were commenting at the local computer store about how Mac's are starting to look so dated compared to modern Linux counterparts. It's funny because the Mac's used to make the Linux ones look dated.

Driver installation is extremely simple, it's literally copy a file to this directory and register the driver with the kernel. The problem is: vendors don't provide binary drivers in a usable format. It's rare to find RPM drivers, or heaven forbid .deb files.

But that isn't Linux's fault... it's the lousy hardware industry that has built up around Wintendo.

And Mac OSX doesn't have the best hardware support either. I've seen many products that were unusable on a Mac as well. Just like Linux, you really need to check before hand if a product is compatible with a Mac.

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RE[6]: Of course it is!
by D3M0N on Sun 24th Dec 2006 07:18 in reply to "RE[5]: Of course it is!"
D3M0N Member since:
2005-07-09

You have valid points; however, what happens when I run into software that doesn't have a binary yet? I'm forced to compile the software by hand. That is certainly not user friendly. I have not found a single OS X, or Windows application that I have had to compile. I have had to compile numerous applications in Linux though. CLI usage in Linux is still too high in Linux IMO to be user friend for average joe, who is scared at sight of any unexpect "white text on a black background".

To each his/her own, I don't believe Linux is near to having as much polish. Linux is still very fragmented with QT/GTK/ even TCL/TK. I simply can't see how anyone can consider Linux to be more polished than OS X. That's in my opinion, the only thing holidng Linux back.

Driver installation? I've never found a driver that wasn't included in the distribution (or that wasn't already packaged into a binary) that was just copying a file. I've always had to compile it from source. Not easy.

True, you still have to watch with OS X, but I've just personally found less cases of my hardware not working without some type of configuration other than click Next Next Next Finished, which frankly, in my opinion, is much easier than copying a file to some "random" location.

I'm not stating that any of this is fact, because its all just my opinion ;)

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