Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 25th Dec 2006 19:58 UTC, submitted by Michael Larabel
3D News, GL, DirectX "Nouveau is a community project that is working on producing open-source 3D display drivers for NVIDIA graphics cards. Nouveau is not affiliated with Nvidia Corp and is an X.Org project. While this project is still far from being completed, for this holiday special we are sharing some of our first thoughts on this project from our experience thus far. We would like to make it very clear, however, that the Nouveau driver is no where near completed and still has a great deal of work ahead for the 3D component. This article today will also hopefully shed some light on the advancements of this project so far."
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Nice
by SCHWEjK on Mon 25th Dec 2006 20:11 UTC
SCHWEjK
Member since:
2006-04-05

Quite interesting project... perhaps this will be a fillip for nvidia to open source their drivers or, at least, to provide 3D accelerated drivers for nvidia cards when non-FOSS kernel modules are branded as "illegal"

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RE: Nice
by JamesTRexx on Mon 25th Dec 2006 21:37 in reply to "Nice"
JamesTRexx Member since:
2005-11-06

I'm positive there are too many patents/IP/third party matters for both Nvidia and ATI to completely open source their drivers, and I have nothing against closed source drivers, but I do hope they'll be able to create the drivers with decent specs.
The biggest advantage I see is excellent integration with X.org for accelerated KDE/Gnome/XFCE/fluxbox/etc...
One more reason to stick with Nvidia hardware.

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RE[2]: Nice
by kaiwai on Tue 26th Dec 2006 03:10 in reply to "RE: Nice"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I have nothing against closed source drivers, they're fabulous! and I certainly will use them when I require - but at the same time, these companies need to stop thinking that the *NIX world revolves around Linux.

What about those who run OpenSolaris? FreeBSD? OpenBSD? I mean, honestly, if OpenSound can support all those platforms with such a limited number of programmers, it shouldn't be a hard task to provide atleast an equal level of support for alternative platforms - right now, but Nvidia and ATI do an incredibly crap job at it.

Nvidia isn't the only company who can get pulled up for this; Intel and their ipw3945 driver, and their stupid decision to release it under a GPL licence instead of dual licencing so that it could be ported to run on non-GPL operating systems like FreeBSD/OpenBSD/NetBSD/OpenSolaris.

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RE[2]: Nice
by jessta on Tue 26th Dec 2006 10:50 in reply to "Nice"
jessta Member since:
2005-08-17

If non-FLOSS modules were every prevented from being loaded in to the kernel, then a FLOSS project would be started to make a module to 'load' non-FLOSS modules.

What is needed is projects like this and more consumer demand for the drivers to be opened. The problem is that the majority of consumers aren't directly effected by my closed source drivers. They are only effected due to lower programmer output by wasting time dealing with closed source crap, which leads to longer time between new feature upgrades etc.

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RE[3]: Nice
by arielb on Tue 26th Dec 2006 11:56 in reply to "RE[2]: Nice"
arielb Member since:
2006-11-15

I'm all for open source drivers but operating systems should be free to use and distribute closed source as well so that users don't have to wait before they can have maximum use of the system

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RE[4]: Nice
by hal2k1 on Thu 28th Dec 2006 09:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Nice"
hal2k1 Member since:
2005-11-11

//If non-FLOSS modules were every prevented from being loaded in to the kernel, then a FLOSS project would be started to make a module to 'load' non-FLOSS modules. //

This is a very good description of what the binary Nviidia driver for Linux and its open-source "wrapper" already does.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html

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RE: Nice
by spikeb on Tue 26th Dec 2006 14:40 in reply to "Nice"
spikeb Member since:
2006-01-18

This project will not make nvidia open their drivers. However, it might garner support from nvidia anyways - that's what happened with the nforce ethernet drivers.

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