Linked by David Adams on Wed 17th Aug 2005 17:31 UTC
Windows Security vendors have reported several new variants of the worm infecting PCs running Microsoft's Windows 2000 operating system. Groups of virus writers are competing to cause the most damage, according to one security company, although the worm appears less severe than some first feared.
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RE: Oh brother
by Moulinneuf on Fri 19th Aug 2005 06:32 UTC in reply to "Oh brother"
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2005-07-06

"That's why you use antivirus and firewall combine and don't open any attachments."

Anti-virus and Firewall are not made to remove or block trojan.

"Trojans can't be execute until you let it."

Sorry , your tottaly wrong on that one.

" If I had a virus wouldn't you think my pc would slow down have a mind of it's own?"

No ...

"How do know that Macs and Linux don't have holes inside their os?"

Macs cant say there the same as Windows ( closed sources) , GNU/Linux anyone can look at the code and test there theory.Thats why many vulnerabilities are found , but very few are actually in use or exploited , which is the opposite of Windows and Macs. It does not mean its full proof or that no exploit will be made for it.

"Good job scaring everybody away from Windows."

I am not scary , I am informative. If the information scares you thats not my fault.

" A good firewall would close all the ports so that worms like the one that CNN got hit wouldn't got burn."

CNN firewall are of the 10k + kind. Do you think that sys admins from CNN are amateurs , there probably on the top list of site to hack to get some notoriety , they have the best sys admins in the world.

- Moulinneuf

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RE[2]: Oh brother
by Soulbender on Fri 19th Aug 2005 07:22 in reply to "RE: Oh brother"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"Anti-virus and Firewall are not made to remove or block trojan."
"Personal" Firewalls are designed to stop trojans and other malware from executing, opening outbound connections etc.

"Sorry , your tottaly wrong on that one."
No, he's totally right. Trojans will not execute until you do so manually. Worms and viruses is an entirely different matter though.

"CNN firewall are of the 10k + kind."
You mean the sucky but expensive kind?
Expensive != good.
Btw, are you endorsing closed source operating systems? I doubt those "10k+" systems are OSS ones...

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RE[3]: Oh brother
by Moulinneuf on Fri 19th Aug 2005 08:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh brother"
Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

"Personnal Firewalls are designed to stop trojans and other malware from executing"

No , there designed to close the numerous open ports by default from the OS , and to allow only certain ports to be used by certain software , inbound or outbounds , a firewall will not stop the execution of malware on your PC or the execution of a trojan.

" No, he's totally right. Trojans will not execute until you do so manually. "

No , Trojan will execute upon reboot , some when the screen saver come active and some are on timer after they are sent.

"Worms and viruses is an entirely different matter though. "

No.

"You mean the sucky but expensive kind?"

No , I mean the expensive and very good one.

"Expensive != good."

No , but I trust the one on CNN can take a lot and are really good too. I read a report about some of them a while back and whas impressed.

"Btw, are you endorsing closed source operating systems?"

No , not at all. It dont means I dont know them very well or how to fix some of them or to work some of them.

"I doubt those "10k+" systems are OSS ones..."

Many of the high end good Firewall are OSS not free Software but thats another subject.

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