Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 16th Jan 2007 13:34 UTC, submitted by Tomasz Dominikowski
SkyOS Lots of news on SkyOS. Kaffe using GNU Classpath (without AWT) is now working fine on SkyOS, just like Wine. Although there is no Wine graphics driver yet, you can already start Windows console applications directly from within SkyOS (once a Wine/SkyGI backend is available Wine should run on SkyOS as good as it does on Linux, and will be available via Software Store). On the driver side there is now an ACPI driver including support for ACPI power/sleep buttons (a SkyOS service, the PowerMonitor, will react on power events with configurable actions like shutdown, reboot, etc.). And finally, the SkyOS LiveCD is shaping together and should soon be available. Take a look at the changelog for all updates. Note: If you have problems accessing the SkyOS.org website, please click read more for how to solve this issue. Other than that, read more for a first glimpse of yet another improvement coming to SkyOS.
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RE: Giving in?
by sirhomer on Tue 16th Jan 2007 19:40 UTC in reply to "Giving in?"
sirhomer
Member since:
2007-01-03

I would also like to bring up that SkyOS API is not C++, but C. Yes, C. When you want to code a native GUI application for SkyOS, it must be done in C, as some programmers know, is horrible for GUI development. There are very few "native" applications for SkyOS for the reason that it's so damn hard to develop for. That is why there is such demand to port Perl/Java/Python/C#/Ruby etc. to the system.

But realizing this, what is the advantage of SkyOS? None. Nothing. Nada. Is it fast? Heck no. It's *very* slow. Firefox takes roughly 40 seconds to load on SkyOS. Is it stable? Nope. Regular applications regularly bring down the whole system, even ones developed by Jinnworks themselves. Thunderbird often crashes *the whole system* at Send/Rcive. Does it have alot of applications? Heck no. It consists of about ten of so featureless and broken "native" applications, and incomplete UNIX ports of 2 year old software. Good hardware support? If you even get SkyOS running natively outside of VMWare, you are one of the lucky few. Also, it has absolutely no video acceleration (runs in VESA mode), and poor support for things like USB Mice. Does it do anything revolutionary? Nope.

Of course, of course, Kelly will come here and say how I am all wrong and you shouldn't listen to me. How SkyOS 5 is still a "beta" (it's been beta for years), and how with SkyOS 5 it will become the best OS ever created. Thom will continue posting these articles hook, line, and sinker. Every time SkyOS gets some half implemented feature Linux or Windows had 10 years ago, you will see some elaborate article about it here. Then you will see the first three or so posts by the cult of personality. "Robert is so f**king amazing!" It will unfortunately continue, and people will continue to get sold snake oil.

Fact of the matter is, SkyOS *right now* takes a lot of memory, is slow, crashes very easily, supports almost no hardware, has very few applications, the native applications it has have very few features, and is hard to develop for. Kelly and Robert won't tell you any of this.

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RE[2]: Giving in?
by Robert on Tue 16th Jan 2007 20:06 in reply to "RE: Giving in?"
Robert Member since:
2005-07-06

@sirhomer:
Come on, stop lying, as I asked you multiple times already. Also, you still refuse to post any debug reports, if you are so upset with your problems, why not just report them so that they get fixed? (But maybe you just want to rant about SkyOS, which I have to say, seems to be so regarding your posts to this and the last SkyOS topics here on osnews.) Oh well,...

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v RE[3]: Giving in?
by sirhomer on Tue 16th Jan 2007 20:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Giving in?"
RE[2]: Giving in?
by Valhalla on Tue 16th Jan 2007 20:12 in reply to "RE: Giving in?"
Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

sirhomer wrote:
-"Thom will continue posting these articles hook, line, and sinker. Every time SkyOS gets some half implemented feature Linux or Windows had 10 years ago, you will see some elaborate article about it here. Then you will see the first three or so posts by the cult of personality.

well, this is OSNews. and I for one think it's more important for a site like this to put the spotlight on the more obscure operating systems out there rather than those who already get mainstream coverage.

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RE[2]: Giving in?
by grable on Tue 16th Jan 2007 20:30 in reply to "RE: Giving in?"
grable Member since:
2006-11-24

>> Firefox takes roughly 40 seconds to load on SkyOS

Atleast its faster than firefox on windows ;)

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RE[3]: Giving in?
by Robert on Tue 16th Jan 2007 20:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Giving in?"
Robert Member since:
2005-07-06

Let's not forget that starting firefox is rather CPU intensive. For instance:
First start of firefox (SkyOS, AMD64 3000+) = 8sec
First start of firefox (SkyOS, Pentium 500) = 32sec
Good thing is that there is still huge optimization potential.

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RE[3]: Giving in?
by dylansmrjones on Wed 17th Jan 2007 02:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Giving in?"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Naah.. on an AMD Sempron 2200+ (32bit) and with 1 GB ram Firefox starts in 2 seconds - and that's without the preloader project installed.

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RE[2]: Giving in?
by Kelly Rush on Tue 16th Jan 2007 20:39 in reply to "RE: Giving in?"
Kelly Rush Member since:
2005-06-30

SkyOS runs so slow because it has a lot of debugging code in it. I'm not covering anything up, that's just the cold hard truth, buddy. ;)

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