Sun Microsystems is set to license OpenSolaris under the upcoming GNU GPLv3 in addition to the existing Common Development and Distribution License, sources close to the company have told eWEEK. "The next version of Solaris will include things like GNU Userland, which is already being attempted with OpenSolaris, while open-source solutions from other communities for things like package management also look very promising. Dual-licensing OpenSolaris with GPLv3 could make this even easier," said a source who declined to be named.
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Member since:2005-07-06
Yet you don't mind Apple and BSD "plundering" the good things from Solaris? How is it any different?
Except they're not "plundering" in my view. If the Solaris code was GPL'd, it would just be "absorbed" into the Linux world. Whereas with the Apple culture, it it *used* but not "absorbed", same with BSD.
If all the functionality of Solaris were moved into Linux, key reasons to use Solaris would not exist. Hence, why I am against it. One project should not succeed at the expense of another.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the way I read this is "I would stop contributing if those Linux bastards could use my stuff".
They can use OpenSolaris and whatever "stuff" I have contributed. Just not in a way that causes it to lose any identity and the licensing I want.
Edited 2007-01-17 01:51
Member since:2005-07-06
Member since:2005-11-23
Yet you don't mind Apple and BSD "plundering" the good things from Solaris? How is it any different?
It's different because they are not saying all the time that Solaris suck, that they are the best out there and that everybody not using their software are wrong.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the way I read this is "I would stop contributing if those Linux bastards could use my stuff".
Such an attitude goes completely against the sprit of the open source/free software movement and is, frankly, rather childish.
If I have to choose a licence for some free code I will choose a licence that will avoid the linux community to use my code.
I though I was the only one with this point of view, but I am happy to see it is not the case. You only have what you deserve with comments like yours: people are tired of the linux user zealotery.
Moreover, I think that it is more childish to see linux users saying that Solaris is a piece of crap since many years, and after that complain because they can not take code from Solaris ....
And no, it is not against open source, it is against linux users.
Linux is not OSS, they are part of it. But you show us what people dislike about linux users: they are nombrilist.
But choosing to do so specifically so that another open source project can't use your code just doesn't seem right to me.
Sound perfectly good to me.
Member since:2006-07-15
>Yet you don't mind Apple and BSD "plundering" the good things from Solaris? How is it any different?
Solaris is just a BSD fork (look back at 1979)! Solaris is using OpenSSH too from OpenBSD .. so think about your words, there is some nonsense in it. Apple is "plundering" BSD but it supports BSD too. Solaris would be dead without projects like BSD and its really free license.
Member since:2006-11-02
Member since:2006-04-30
Solaris is just a BSD fork (look back at 1979)! Solaris is using OpenSSH too from OpenBSD .. so think about your words, there is some nonsense in it. Apple is "plundering" BSD but it supports BSD too. Solaris would be dead without projects like BSD and its really free license.
Depends if you are talking about Solaris 1.x (rebadged SunOS+features) or Solaris 2. Solaris 1.x is BSD based. Solaris 2.x onwards is very much AT&T SVR4 based.
- Wasn't BSD originally a AT&T fork???
- Wasn't one of the co-founders of Sun (Bill Joy) "largely responsible for the authorship of Berkeley UNIX" (Quoted from Wikipedia - SAD I know).
Real opensource is cool, and also bastardised (licence depending). It would be nicer if people (including me) spent more time coding than writing crap on slashdot/osnews etc. We would probably would care less who is plundering who....
Member since:2005-11-14
> "Such an attitude goes completely against the sprit of the open source/free software movement and is, frankly, rather childish."
and
> "But choosing to do so specifically so that another open source project can't use your code just doesn't seem right to me."
This is exactly what GPL do with the licenses that are "compatible" with it.
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2006-02-01
You mean so that Linux distributions can plunder every good thing about Solaris and kill the existing Solaris community?
Yet you don't mind Apple and BSD "plundering" the good things from Solaris? How is it any different?
As an OpenSolaris contributor, I would stop contributing if they chose the GPLv2. The CDDL was a *main* reason why I joined the OpenSolaris project.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the way I read this is "I would stop contributing if those Linux bastards could use my stuff". Such an attitude goes completely against the sprit of the open source/free software movement and is, frankly, rather childish.
If you like OpenSolaris best and want to contribute to it, then that's great. But choosing to do so specifically so that another open source project can't use your code just doesn't seem right to me.