Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 17th Jan 2007 10:20 UTC, submitted by Michael Larabel
Fedora Core "Fedora Core 6 was released on October 24, 2006 and scheduled to come out a half-year later is the seventh major release for the Fedora Project. However, unlike Yarrow, Tettnang, Heidelberg, Stentz, Bordeaux, and Zod, Fedora 7 is shaping up to be the most ambitious release yet. With all the work and reform going into Fedora 7 it poses the question, will Fedora 7 be Linux's knight in shining armor?"
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RE[2]: RE: *buntu?
by Tsuroerusu on Wed 17th Jan 2007 14:36 UTC in reply to "RE: RE: *buntu?"
Tsuroerusu
Member since:
2006-12-17

"Well, so is Ubuntu. I would be interested in seeing what packages in one of the standard *buntu releases is not FOSS."

A default installation of Ubuntu includes the linux-restricted-modules packages, which includes a shitload of proprietary drivers. Everything from weird-ass ISDN and DSL drivers, non-free wireless drivers (The Madwifi driver for example), the kernel parts of the ATi and NVIDIA drivers. That package also includes binary-only firmware.

You can see the complete contents of the linux-restricted-modules packages here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=fi...

(Yes, I am aware that Fedora 7 will add proprietary firmware)

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RE[3]: RE: *buntu?
by phoenix on Thu 18th Jan 2007 20:21 in reply to "RE[2]: RE: *buntu?"
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2005-07-11

Why does everyone get such a twist in their panties over "binary/proprietary firmware"? Every single device in your computer (the CD-ROM, the floppy, the harddrive, the NIC, the monitor, *everything*) includes binary, proprietary firmware. These are little programs that run *on the device* to manage all the features of that device.

Without these, the devices would be paper-weights.

NOTE: FIRMWARE DOES NOT RUN ON YOUR COMPUTER, DOES NOT RUN ON THE OS!!! It runs on the device itself, and only affects that one device.

So, why do all the OSS "everything-must-be-free in my OS" people get so bent out of shape over binary firmware?

These are very different beasts from binary/proprietary *DRIVERS*. Binary/proprietary drivers run in the kernel. These can cause all kinds of problems with the OS.

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