Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Jan 2007 16:33 UTC, submitted by jayson.knight
Windows With the imminent release of Windows Vista to consumers this month, Linus Torvalds, the father of Linux, has claimed Microsoft's latest desktop effort is over-hyped and not a revolutionary advancement. "I don't actually think that something like Vista will change how people work that much," Torvalds told Computerworld. "I think it, to some degree, has been over-hyped as being something completely new and I don't actually think it is."
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RE[3]: True
by CPUGuy on Sat 20th Jan 2007 05:05 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: True"
CPUGuy
Member since:
2005-07-06

Haiku is a copied OS that was NOT developed by scratch (based off of the NewOS kernel, which has been in development longer).

SkyOS is nowhere near ready, or even somewhat mature.

How exactly has Firefox encouraged a rethink of the web? Yeah, Firefox is a decent browser, certainly no where near the best (though, the 3.0 alphas are promising, and take up much less RAM).

So you are saying that in 5 years Ubuntu got a good name for itself? Wow, what an accomplishment. Yes, I like Ubuntu, but it is just another distribution.

On top of that, who the hell cares how long it took to come out? That has nothing to do with anything.

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RE[4]: True
by dylansmrjones on Sat 20th Jan 2007 05:23 in reply to "RE[3]: True"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Vista wasn't developed from scratch either. Windows was from the very beginning an (more or less) illegal ripoff of Mac OS Classic.

SkyOS is more stable than Win9x, but is however rather mature. Stability is still an issue, but so is userfriendliness and performance in Windows.

FF managed to make designers follow standards and make users make their own decisions - IE managed to ruin the work on international standards, taking the freedom away from users, and creating a market for the phishing-gangsters (probably Microsoft's sole original contribution to mankind).


Yes, I like Ubuntu, but it is just another distribution.
Yeah, and Vista is just another version - nothing new, nothing better, nothing good. Lie down boy and wash your face.

On top of that, who the hell cares how long it took to come out? That has nothing to do with anything.

It has a lot to say. Considering all the things Vista should have been, and how much it actually isn't and how little it is, it's embarrasing for Microsoft that they cannot do better. All that time for nothing. It's funny though, that "Communist Hobby Coders" (according to your beloved Master) can do MUCH better than Microsoft. The lack of a properly controlled development process ought to make everybody think twice about buying Vista.

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RE[5]: True
by CPUGuy on Sat 20th Jan 2007 13:48 in reply to "RE[4]: True"
CPUGuy Member since:
2005-07-06

Please point me where hobby OS coders have done better.
And please, while early versions of Windows were based off of an early copy of the Mac, they were actually nothing alike. NT is also definately not a copy of MacOS Classic... heck, Classic MacOS (including OS9) was right around Win 3.11 as far as technology goes. But again, why are we even debating this? It has nothing to do with what Vista is.

So you are saying that Microsoft and IE is the cause of phishing? Are you kidding me? You think that FF is magically secure from phishing? If you don't know that phishing is a problem between the keyboard and the chair then you clearly no next to nothing about what you are talking about.

How is Vista nothing new? I point you back to my original post. There is very little in Vista that hasn't been changed.
"Lie down boy and wash your face"? Are you kidding me?

I say that you haven't even used Vista, nor do you know exactly how well Vista really works, you would be suprised, heck, I am suprised even by the final build compared to RC2.
Vista is missing ONE piece of promised technology, and that is WinFS, which, I would like to point out, was replaced by a true indexer and desktop search. Not a great replacement for what WinFS is, but still great to have that desktop search finally built into the OS.

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