Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 20th Jan 2007 18:38 UTC, submitted by fylfot
RISC OS Castle and RISC OS Open discuss there plans for the gradual unveiling of an open source RISC OS over the next twelve months. They explain their reasoning behind some of the source code restrictions in their licence. "Castle's Jack Lillingston opened the presentation with a brief run through of his company's products before outlining the shared source initiative - which is designed to get the source code to RISC OS 5 out into the open for free, and encourage third party developers to improve it. Steve then took over to explain more about how the project will be organised, and how they need donations to keep going."
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Too restrictive
by mcduck on Sat 20th Jan 2007 18:59 UTC
mcduck
Member since:
2005-11-23

The lisence they outlined are so strick, what their infact asking about is having people work for them for free.

Banning new architecture ports? It's not like ARM has a big market share anymore.

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RE: Too restrictive
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 20th Jan 2007 19:02 in reply to "Too restrictive"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

It's not like ARM has a big market share anymore.

Err, virtually every PDA and many phones use ARM processors.

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RE[2]: Too restrictive
by mcduck on Sat 20th Jan 2007 19:16 in reply to "RE: Too restrictive"
mcduck Member since:
2005-11-23

Err, virtually every PDA and many phones use ARM processors

That is true, but I dont concider the mobile market Risc OS's targeted market. Reading up on Risc OS, its clear they target desktop users.

Also, this line (http://productsdb.riscos.com/admin/riscos.htm) made me laught;

Like all GUIs, the RISC OS Desktop has a learning curve, but once learnt, it is by far the most user friendly and productive GUI in the world today.

Dont get me wrong, but it seems they have lost touch of reality, or have been living in a cage for the last 10 years.

A shame really, becuse Risc OS had potential.

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RE[2]: Too restrictive
by Earl Colby pottinger on Sun 21st Jan 2007 01:43 in reply to "RE: Too restrictive"
Earl Colby pottinger Member since:
2005-07-06

Problem is I don't see and cheap, fast and powerful ARM based computers out there that can't be beat in the price/performance by other CPU motherboard.

I left the Amiga and went to Intel-BeOS because I knew if BeOS did not work out (it did) that I would have a large number of options.

Looking at the Amiga market now, I knew I meade the right decision, there they have not just limited themselves to PPC, but to a limited PPC design that is now causing problems with supply. Hech, IBM makes some powerful PPC hardware and Amiga-DOS can't even run on them.

This licence sound like a move in the same direction to me.

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RE: Too restrictive
by madcrow on Sat 20th Jan 2007 19:04 in reply to "Too restrictive"
madcrow Member since:
2006-03-13

Not really... It doesn't seem that much more restrictive than the early Apple/Darwin license, except for the porting ban.

As for the market share of ARM, it still dominates the handheld market. Imagine RISC OS running on a Nintendo DS or your palmtop. With the new license, it seems possible.

Also, the news about build of the open code being posted sound promising as it would probably be possible to use those with emulators for those who want to try the platform out but can't really spend any money on it.

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RE: Too restrictive
by Kroc on Sat 20th Jan 2007 22:27 in reply to "Too restrictive"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

But at the same time you are applying the principles of one eco-system (Linux/GNU) to another, and that doesn't fit. RISC OS users are already using a closed system. Just because the code is going to be partially opened, doesn't suddenly mean that they are going to throw their arms up in the air about openess. RISC OS Users enjoy their system, open or not. The license might be restrictive, but it's nothing outside what the community mostly want anyway. I dislike greatly the use of "if it's not GPL it's not good enough".

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RE: Too restrictive
by rhyder on Sun 21st Jan 2007 20:50 in reply to "Too restrictive"
rhyder Member since:
2005-09-28

"Banning new architecture ports? It's not like ARM has a big market share anymore"

I love the way this gets modded all the way up :-)

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