"It's all too easy to get caught up in the million dollar marketing engine as we approach the consumer release of Windows Vista, so lets not forget that it isn't the second coming, and by all counts is an upgrade you can do without. There are many lists out there on why to get Vista, so here's ours on why not to." Update: I have written a rebuttal on my weblog. Update II: Another rebuttal.
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Member since:2005-07-08
OK, I'll bite. Why are you trying to install Vista (a client operating system) on a server. Checking with HP's web site there are no drivers for Vista for the DL360. In fact for all generations of the DL360 there are no drivers for Vista or XP on the HP site.
The vast majority of client PC's are not going to have built in RAID controllers (SmartArray 5.x or 6.x on the DL360), lights out management, etc. So its no wonder the system didn't work because Microsoft is not going to ship even basic drivers for server grade RAID controllers. And I seriously doubt that businesses are going to install Vista (any version) on a server. So what was the point of this again?
Member since:2005-07-07
OK, I'll bite. Why are you trying to install Vista (a client operating system) on a server.
Good question. I also can't understand why anyone would install Windows on a server.
They should just concentrate on the desktop, that's what they are good in.
And no, 2007 won't be the year of the Window server.
Member since:2005-07-22
If you read what I said, I was installing Vista Business. This is (At the moment) the closest to Vista Server we can get.
The DL360 was used because it just works with Server 2003 and Vista is built on the Server 2003 code base.
The Dl360 was used because it was available. The Raid controller is configured for JBOD. Every other O/S picke them up without problem. Actually, Vista picks up the Raid controllers without problem It was other devices eg Sound that Vista failed miserably.
For an O/S that is aimed at media centre work to fail to detect a standard soundblaster card then sorry, Microsoft, you have failed miserably.
I can understand they aims it restricting 64bit drivers to signed ones but surely if they had got their act together then they would have had LOT and I mean LOTS of signed drivers available at Release? Is this not a simple question to ask?
If not then please explain why not.
This is also why I say leave it until SP1 before making any serious attempt to deploy or use Vista in any serious way at all.
Member since:2006-04-21
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2005-07-22
I have this very day installed Vista Business Ultimate on a system that also runs Server 2003 very well (3.6Ghz Xeon, 4Mb Ram).
After 10 hours and no less than 19 (yes I counted them) reboots I gave up.
This system is a bog standard HP DL360. I have had similar problems with a Dell SC1420. There are still several key device drivers not available. I was trying to replicate the Server 2003 installation but the documented shortcomings eg Signed Video drivers, no sound etc.
In the words of a prominent UK Politician(The Home Secretary), "Vista is not fit for service". When Server 2003 came out it was just the opposite to this heap of cow dung. It worked yet Vista is suppoed to be built on the same codebase and it does not. Would someone please explain how this is progress?
My conclusions
No doubt that things will improve over time but at the moment, put the DVD in the trash and get a life. Wait until SP1 and try again.
Note to MS, I hope the Vista Server is NOT like this or whatever % of the Server market you have will go down the plughole. Server 2003 is a nice O/S but so far my experience of Vista leaves me to seriously consider switching Server O/S.