Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 20:41 UTC, submitted by WillM
Novell and Ximian Retail giant Wal-Mart Stores is contracting with Microsoft and Novell - Microsoft's preferred Linux partner - to build out the company's Web operations, according to a Wal-Mart executive. On Tuesday, Microsoft and Novell are expected to announce that Wal-Mart is the latest customer to purchase both Microsoft software and support certificates for Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Server.
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by merkoth on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 21:42 UTC in reply to "RE: ..."
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Respecting the migration itself, their decision is fairly understandable: Wal-Mart is a huge worldwide bussiness, so you can't just hope that Microsoft's IP bullshit to be just FUD. What if it isn't? Of course, moving from RH to SLED will cost quite some money, but it'll be always less than paying for IP infrigement. I must admit that, from the bussiness point, you just can't take the risk of IP infrigement, even if you think that the MS/Novell deal is pure bullshit. There's little to gain from staying with, let's say RH, but there's a lot to lose if MS demands you.

I'm afraid that this was the tactic behind the deal, and seems to be working just fine ATM. You didn't really think that MS was trying to convince us, did you? No, they were trying to convince large companies, just like Wal-Mart.

That said, I couldn't care less about MS claims about IP: as I said before, show me the code and then we'll talk.

Edit: Removed stupid comment, I misread, sorry.

Edited 2007-01-23 21:45

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by looncraz on Tue 23rd Jan 2007 21:59 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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Wal-mart could not be held responsible for the use of freely available software that advertised itself as being fully legal and licensed. The makers of the software are the ones that have to worry.

That means your entire scenario is entirely non-feasible. Wal-mart's IT dept likely explained how much money could be saved, and the upper-management agreed. The most-backed solution for a world-wide corporation is now, of course, MS, so we should be happy that Novell's solution proved to be enticing enough to Wal-mart to merit a risk such as migrating IT infrastructures.

--The loon

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by milles21 on Wed 24th Jan 2007 03:37 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
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You are completely wrong in your statement wal-mart could still be held responsible because they were infact running their business on the platform. That is why idemnification exists. You may want to brush up on your law. Think SCO, and Daimler-Chrystler

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by Don T. Bothers on Thu 25th Jan 2007 00:14 in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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"Of course, moving from RH to SLED will cost quite some money, but it'll be always less than paying for IP infrigement."

Actually, moving from RHEL to SuSE should cost very little money. The base system (RPMS, bash, directory structure, ext3, Linux kernel, Apache, PHP, perl, sendmail/postfix, Bind, etc.) are basically the same. Furtheremore, RedHat and Novell cost about the same and neither sells anything but a yearly support license. That means, in terms of licensing cost, it does not cost people extra to move to Novell versus to keep RedHat. Finally, for a company the size of Walmart, it should be very easy to simply image the servers and redeploy their applications across the Novell servers.

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