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//If God DOES exist, you will face a Holy God when you die ... All those years wasted in temporal pleasures... and for what? THIS! Eternal damnation//
Ahhh, threats now is it? The all-powerful god in heaven is so desperate for my liking him that he feels it necessary to threaten me with eternal damnation?
Please point out where I said anything about god not existing?
What I actually said was that I did not believe that the old testament book was the word of god. It is a book. It was written in ancient Hebrew many thousands of years ago by people of a primitive culture with a limited language and even more limited understanding, a people who demonstrably had no idea whatsoever about simple logic.
Hardly a likely candidate to be the divine word of god now, is it?
If an all-powerful god really, truly wanted me to worship him, why would he try to ask me via such a poor vehicle of communication as the contradiction-ridden old testament?
You believe god wants people to worship him, but he hides from us? Hardly sounds like a trustworthy character now, does it?
God is God. Whether you "like" Him or hate Him, is irrelevant. Just like water... love it or hate it, you still have to drink it. Simple fact.
If you truly believed God existed, you wouldn't be arguing like this. If God exists, then He has a standard, in writing, that men (He created) must follow.
If the Holy Bible is, as you seem to think, NOT that standard, then what is it? The Koran? The 12 Step program of Alcoholics Anonymous? The "other testament" of Jesus Christ for Latter Day Saints? Perhaps the Satanic Bible? WHAT?!?
If the Bible is NOT the divine Word of God, then tell me what is, 'cause I'd sure like to know!
You seem to think you know what ACCURATE medium God is using to talk to us, so tell me what it is, 'cause I ain't got a clue.
Or is it just the Old Testament you have such a problem with? Because if you actually think the New Testament is fine, then I'll heartily agree with you. I can go with either, because I (personally) like 'em both.






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Try installing Windows XP (or any software) without it residing on a medium of some kind... CD, HD, floppy disk, etc. You CAN'T. You can't install "electrical signals on a wire". Once it rests on a given medium, it is now a solid PRODUCT. A product you've STOLEN!
I believe the Word of God *IS* the Word of God, because that's what being a Christian is all about... believing God is God and that His Word is true.
I suggest you come to the quick realization that, without God, our lives are utterly meaningless and will only end in a sad, pathetic form of existance for as long as we're on this earth. After that, it only gets worse... MUCH worse. As in *eternally* worse.
But, of course, you don't believe in such things. But one day you will... one day you will. I would only hope that day comes before your last breath, because, either way...
"Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess... Jesus Christ is Lord"
I've did it a long time ago... because those who wait until they see Jesus, will STILL end up doing/saying the same, but won't have the chance to 'make up' for having been wrong. Their chance will be gone.
You see, from a purely logical perspective, I look at it this way...
If God DOESN'T exist, I've nothing to lose. I've stayed away from those things that would be bad for me anyways (drugs, alcohol, violence, rampant sexual liasons, etc. All those worldly "pleasures" people don't want to give up) and felt great living that way. In the end, my legacy is that I lived the best life possible.
If God DOES exist (and I believe He does, of course!), then I have MUCH more to look forward to, beyond this temporal existance we call life. A future that never ends, with the Creator of the universe! Those things I do for others and my loyalty to God will be rewarded, as stated in the bible.
Contrast that with YOUR life...
If God DOESN'T exist, your life is utterly meaningless. Filled with whatever you can do to bide your time until you die. Run the rat race, get money, buy things, do whatever your temporal flesh desires... and then... one day... it's over. You simply cease to exist. Your life, for all your goals and quests and accomplishments... equals NOTHING! None of it mattered. Not how long you lived nor how much you gained. You still end up dead. A dead body in a grave or an urn full of ashes. Think of it... a life that means absolutely NOTHING in the end.
[I had a vision of that *exact* scenario one day, when I was eating lunch out in the field at Van Nuys Jr. High (around 1980-81) and it scared me S-less! In that moment, my life passed before my eyes, and it scared me. To think my life would amount to nothing, in the end.]
If God DOES exist, you will face a Holy God when you die, who will require an accounting of your life. Every jot and tittle will be recalled. And you will be forced to bow the knee and confess Jesus as Lord... realizing that you no longer have any excuse for your actions and words. You will suddenly realize that you were wrong and there is NOTHING you can do to make up for it... your chance was lost, when you died. All those years wasted in temporal pleasures... and for what? THIS! Eternal damnation for following after the god of this world... Satan. Not because God WANTS you there, but because you CHOSE to refuse His one solitary Gift. His Son.
There are two paths in this world. One wide and one narrow. The wide path leads to hell. The narrow path leads to heaven. God doesn't SEND you to hell, for being on the wide path. That's just the destination at the end of it. Simple fact. You follow Satan, you go where he goes. A very simple premise of "Follow-the-leader". And he's headed for Hell... no matter what he does. His path will end up there, sooner or later.
So, the way I see it, you can risk eternal consequences, believing God DOESN'T exist, or you can choose to believe He does and... if he doesn't... you've lived an overall better life in spite of it!
As Jesus, Himself, said... "What profit it a man, if he gain the whole world and lose his own soul or what shall he give in exchange for his soul?"
Are you willing to take that risk? Eternity in hell lasts just as long as eternity in heaven. Except your only thought will probably be... "I was wrong... I was wrong... I was wrong... I was wrong..."
There is no such suffering worse than to realize you "COULD have" and now you "NEVER will have".
Not a fun thought to have for the rest of eternity...
Amen.
Now, um... can we get back to dissing Microsoft and their over-priced OS that everyone and their unborn child is pirating? :-)