Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 26th Jan 2007 14:57 UTC, submitted by iangibson
PC-BSD PC-BSD 1.3 was released on New Year's Eve. Dru Lavigne interviewed Kris Moore, Andrei Kolu, and Charles Landemaine of the PC-BSD release engineering team regarding the new release and their involvement within the PC-BSD community.
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RE: FreeBSD and hardware support
by Oliver on Fri 26th Jan 2007 23:37 UTC in reply to "FreeBSD and hardware support"
Oliver
Member since:
2006-07-15

Oh Jesus a Linux "zealot" ;)

You have quality with *BSD and quantity with Linux. Some small hacks aren't really any kind of stable development. It just works is Linus credo. It works because it's good handcrafted code is *BSD credo. But I do think this isn't something you like to hear. Maybe people like Alan Cox or Andrew Morton fit better? These people stand for quality in Linux and they are fightin g against the legions of "hackers", who don't know it better. Maybe Linux will mature in future, but it's a long, hard road - LSB is the beginning.

*per aspera ad astra* ;)

>Linux is still the best the future has to offer...

I see, a second "Windows" with all it's trade offs. Thanks. But hey it's opensource ;)
Some people like it to work with an os, others like it to tinker with an os - it's a free world, do what you want :o)

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garymax Member since:
2006-01-23

"I see, a second "Windows" with all it's trade offs. Thanks. But hey it's opensource ;)
Some people like it to work with an os, others like it to tinker with an os - it's a free world, do what you want :o..."

For your info I use Slackware so I hardly "tinker" as you put it. FreeBSD simply does not rise to the level of Linux in hardware support. Also, if someone is going to produce an OS that does not work as well as others and relies on "tinkering" or "fixes" that may be fine for some folk but at least admit it and work on it.

This tinkering aspect of FreeBSD is holding it back. It's got nothing to do with Windows so don't even go there.

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Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

This is FUD, do use *BSD first before spreading FUD.

>FreeBSD simply does not rise to the level of Linux in hardware support.

X -> mostly the same support
Audio -> almost the same
TV -> a field of Linux, but they have some unstable drivers too in kernel
Network/Wlan -> no real difference, maybe better in OBSD

>if someone is going to produce an OS that does not work as well as others and relies on "tinkering" or "fixes" that may be fine for some folk but at least admit it and work on it.

There isn't something to admit, because it's FUD of Linux people. Sorry but you hear this rant everywhere.

Slackware was a nice distro, some years ago. Today it's just years behind, behind every OS. No default(!) package management, kernel 2.4.x is default (guess why, because of stability ;) ) and so on. Your miracle of development is just an vintage os in Linux world. But well, give me more of your FUD, it's really amusing ;)

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Haicube Member since:
2005-08-06

FreeBSD simply does not rise to the level of Linux in hardware support.

This thread is about PCBSD, not about Linux. 30% of the threads on this site is about Linux distro this and Linux distro that. Face the fact... some of us don't favour Linux and that's that. Your subjective opinion belongs to the other 30% threads, so stay there.

And regarding HW support is a very debatable feature. is it the no of drivers? No of solid drivers? No of high performance drivers? no of reliable drivers? My opinion is this. IF it's in the BSD trees, it means they will work and not bring crashes. If the same goes for Penguinhackcrap I assume it to be experimental until experiencing different!

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Joe User Member since:
2005-06-29

> This tinkering aspect of FreeBSD is holding it back.

Yes, but be frank and recognize that Linux doesn't have less tinkering. Otherwise it would have more than 1% usage among computer users for sure.

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