Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 26th Jan 2007 14:57 UTC, submitted by iangibson
PC-BSD PC-BSD 1.3 was released on New Year's Eve. Dru Lavigne interviewed Kris Moore, Andrei Kolu, and Charles Landemaine of the PC-BSD release engineering team regarding the new release and their involvement within the PC-BSD community.
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garymax
Member since:
2006-01-23

"I see, a second "Windows" with all it's trade offs. Thanks. But hey it's opensource ;)
Some people like it to work with an os, others like it to tinker with an os - it's a free world, do what you want :o..."

For your info I use Slackware so I hardly "tinker" as you put it. FreeBSD simply does not rise to the level of Linux in hardware support. Also, if someone is going to produce an OS that does not work as well as others and relies on "tinkering" or "fixes" that may be fine for some folk but at least admit it and work on it.

This tinkering aspect of FreeBSD is holding it back. It's got nothing to do with Windows so don't even go there.

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Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

This is FUD, do use *BSD first before spreading FUD.

>FreeBSD simply does not rise to the level of Linux in hardware support.

X -> mostly the same support
Audio -> almost the same
TV -> a field of Linux, but they have some unstable drivers too in kernel
Network/Wlan -> no real difference, maybe better in OBSD

>if someone is going to produce an OS that does not work as well as others and relies on "tinkering" or "fixes" that may be fine for some folk but at least admit it and work on it.

There isn't something to admit, because it's FUD of Linux people. Sorry but you hear this rant everywhere.

Slackware was a nice distro, some years ago. Today it's just years behind, behind every OS. No default(!) package management, kernel 2.4.x is default (guess why, because of stability ;) ) and so on. Your miracle of development is just an vintage os in Linux world. But well, give me more of your FUD, it's really amusing ;)

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Happel Member since:
2005-11-16

>Slackware was a nice distro, some years ago.[/italics]

Still is!

>Today it's just years behind, behind every OS. No default(!) package management, kernel 2.4.x
is default

Misinformation. Pkgtool is there and works like charm. 2.4 is default, so what? It's easy to replace with 2.6.x. You can build your own or install kernel from extra/ or testing/.

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garymax Member since:
2006-01-23

"Slackware was a nice distro, some years ago. Today it's just years behind, behind every OS. No default(!) package management, kernel 2.4.x is default (guess why, because of stability ;) ) and so on. Your miracle of development is just an vintage os in Linux world. But well, give me more of your FUD, it's really amusing..."

Why is it when someone shares an opinion that's based on proveable experience it is all of a sudden "FUD"? I have nothing personally against FreeBSD other than my experience.

The savage driver is still broken, it choked on hardware that runs Linux perfectly. No FUD just facts. And Slackware is just as up-to-date as any other distro...it just gives you the control without all of the bloat and layers of abstraction.

I'll say it again: a man who has had an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument (FUD).

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Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

"X -> mostly the same support
Audio -> almost the same
TV -> a field of Linux, but they have some unstable drivers too in kernel
Network/Wlan -> no real difference, maybe better in OBSD"


As far as I experienced, some Linusi recognize hardware that PC-BSD doesn't, but the majority of standard components can be used with both of them. So both are nearly equivalent. If I can believe some informations I've heard, Linux does support more hardware than "Windows" does, so maybe this is true for PC-BSD, too?

Does "TV" refer to the TV out (video) of GPUs or HDTV 'n stuff? Or multimedia capabilities? I would like to get the video output of my ancient ATI RV250 Radeon 9000/9000 working. :-)

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happycamper Member since:
2006-01-01

/*Slackware was a nice distro, some years ago. Today it's just years behind, behind every OS.
No default(!) package management, kernel 2.4.x is default (guess why, because of stability ;) ) and so on. */

but still slackware get more hits on distrowatch then pcbsd and desktopbsd. why is that?

Edited 2007-01-28 13:46

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happycamper Member since:
2006-01-01

/*No default(!) package management*/


why for? netbsd's pkgsrc works great

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Haicube Member since:
2005-08-06

FreeBSD simply does not rise to the level of Linux in hardware support.

This thread is about PCBSD, not about Linux. 30% of the threads on this site is about Linux distro this and Linux distro that. Face the fact... some of us don't favour Linux and that's that. Your subjective opinion belongs to the other 30% threads, so stay there.

And regarding HW support is a very debatable feature. is it the no of drivers? No of solid drivers? No of high performance drivers? no of reliable drivers? My opinion is this. IF it's in the BSD trees, it means they will work and not bring crashes. If the same goes for Penguinhackcrap I assume it to be experimental until experiencing different!

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Joe User Member since:
2005-06-29

> This tinkering aspect of FreeBSD is holding it back.

Yes, but be frank and recognize that Linux doesn't have less tinkering. Otherwise it would have more than 1% usage among computer users for sure.

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