A coalition of rivals charged on Friday that Microsoft's new Vista operating system coming out next week will perpetuate practices found illegal in the European Union nearly three years ago. The group, which includes IBM, Nokia, Sun Microsystems, Adobe, Oracle and Red Hat, said its complaints made last year are yet to be addressed just days before Vista is due for release.
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So, let me get this straight. You want the EU to order MS to unbundle various components from its OS; then, you want the EU to force MS to advertise the unbundled version?!? That's hilarious, dude! And, on top of that, you actually think that consumers are going to choose a product with fewer features over one with Media Player, etc. Sounds like a disconnect from reality. I know that YOU might choose that, but I would argue that the vast majority of consumers don't want fewer features. It's the same reason why Microsoft sells so many licenses of XP Pro versus XP Home.
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So, let me get this straight.
You are not getting it straight at all. You are giving me motives, you do not have the slightest reason to give me.
You want the EU to order MS to unbundle various components from its OS;
No, I don't. I have never stated that anywhere! What I did write was that Average Joe cannot be expected to buy a lesser bloated version of Windows without knowing it exists.
then, you want the EU to force MS to advertise the unbundled version?!?
I have never stated any such thing. It would be most unacceptable IMHO. What I stated was merely that XP N sold/sells poorly because very few knew/know of its existance. You use the poor salesnumbers as an argument despite the fact that nobody advertises XP N. If people had advertised for XP N and it still sold poorly then your argument would have been valid. As it stands now you are jumping to a conclusion you cannot backup with facts.
And, on top of that, you actually think that consumers are going to choose a product with fewer features over one with Media Player, etc.
Some would, some wouldn't. But you do realize that all it would take for a person to get WMP or another media player would be to install it? It wouldn't cripple the system as MS claims. It would merely give the user the choice of running without one, or choosing a media player according to his/her wishes.
XP Home sells better than XP Pro (at least in Denmark). XP Home is shipped with every computer and so far I haven't seen a single XP Pro at home. At workplaces the situation is clearly different. The majority is Win2K or WinXP Pro.
EDITED: Fixed a typo (but --> buy)
Edited 2007-01-27 23:12
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Of course nobody bought it. Nobody is advertising for XP N. Do you honestly think Average Joe will buy a product he doesn't even know about?
If I could get a version of Win2K3 _without_ Media Player, I'd use it. But since it's unavailable on MSDN AA (the same goes for XP N), I'll just keep using the version with Media Player (aka GAPING_SECURITY_HOLE) installed
I know you're fond of being a MS-apologist, but at least you could use your own mind.
. o O ( Average Joe buying a product he doesn't even know exist... come on Tomcat! You can do much better )