"So, which really is better for the desktop: Vista or Linux? I've been working with Vista since its beta days, and I started using Linux in the mid-90s. There may be other people who have worked with both more than I have, but there can't be many of them. Along the way, I've formed a strong opinion: Linux is the better of the two. But, now that Vista is on the brink of becoming widely available, I thought it was time to take a comprehensive look at how the two really compare. To do this, I decided to take one machine, install both of them on it, and then see what life was like with both operating systems on a completely even playing field."
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Member since:2005-07-02
I'm getting used to this kind of response. When I point out a problem with Linux, the response come in two parts:
- This is not true
- Windows is the system that actually has this problem.
Then perhaps you should post valid criticism instead of FUD...
The fact is that having various toolkits is not a real problem in Linux, but anti-Linux posters desperately try to argue it is.
Anyway, just for the record, yes, I opened the "Save as..." dialog in several applications and ther all look exactly the same in Windows, and I can save on a samba share with all of them.
Well, you didn't do a thorough job. The save dialog for Photoshop is different than the one for MS Word, for example. The latter is also different from the one for Internet Explorer (which are two MS apps).
By curiosity, which applications did you check?
I didn't know that. Again, why no distro does? For me, "Submit" buttons inside Firefox are different from inside Konqueror.
Oh, the horror!! FYI, Firefox is not a pure GTK application. It has its own theme engine.
In any case, this is irrelevant. You have inconsistencies for widgets and styles with ALL OSes. For some reason, the only people it seems to bother are anti-Linux posters, but only when talking about Linux...
Again, there's no need because there's not this problem on Windows. All "Save as..." dialogs are exactly the same.
No, they're not. Thanks for proving that you didn't actually bother to check.
One more hack. This should be selected as default. Do you think end-users know about all these hacks that you find "googling"?
You must get tired, always moving those goalposts further...
It's not a "hack", it's an easy to find checkbox in the control center. On Kubuntu I believe it is selected by default.
You may not like Linux. Fine. But stop posting FUD about it. It's not like MS needs your help to maintain its market dominance or anything...
Member since:2005-06-29
The save dialog for Photoshop is different than the one for MS Word, for example. The latter is also different from the one for Internet Explorer (which are two MS apps).
Did you actually do it? The Photoshop dialog only has several additional options: "as a copy", "Layer", and "Use lower-case extension". What a deal. These are the applications I tried: Edit Pad Pro, Firefox, IE7, OpenOffice.org Writer and Photoshop. They all have the same "Save as..." dialog.
Firefox is not a pure GTK application. It has its own theme engine.
Then, why do the widgets (radio button, checkbox, butons, scrollbars...) look like the rest of the desktop if you use Firefox in Gnome? It should be different from both Gnome and KDE according to you. The thing is that Firefox is done for Gnome and not for KDE. This is because it uses Gtk.
It's not FUD, these are facts that you can double-check yourself. FUD is all the Linux community does to try to bring more people in their war against "M $".
Edited 2007-01-28 21:19
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2005-06-29
These inconsistencies all exist between Windows applications as well
I'm getting used to this kind of response. When I point out a problem with Linux, the response come in two parts:
- This is not true
- Windows is the system that actually has this problem.
This sort of response is used for other aspects: bar hardware support, bad or lack of software applications, ease of use, etc...
Anyway, just for the record, yes, I opened the "Save as..." dialog in several applications and ther all look exactly the same in Windows, and I can save on a samba share with all of them.
The advantage, of course, is that with Linux it *is* possible to have Gtk apps use Qt widgets
I didn't know that. Again, why no distro does? For me, "Submit" buttons inside Firefox are different from inside Konqueror.
while on Windows you're stuck with what you have.
Again, there's no need because there's not this problem on Windows. All "Save as..." dialogs are exactly the same.
As for fonts, there is a little box in the KDE Control Center which you can click to make GTK apps use the same fonts as QT apps. That's what I would call an "easy fix".
One more hack. This should be selected as default. Do you think end-users know about all these hacks that you find "googling"?