Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 1st Feb 2007 01:12 UTC, submitted by jayson.knight
Microsoft After 17 years with the company, Jim Allchin retired from Microsoft as of Jan. 30, 2007 the day on which Microsoft officially released the Windows Vista operating system to consumers. James (Jim) Allchin served as co-president of Microsoft's Platforms & Services Division from September 2005 until his retirement. In that position, Allchin shared overall responsibility with Kevin Johnson for the division of the company that includes the Windows and Windows Live Group, Windows Live Platform Group, Online Business Group, Market Expansion Group, Core Operating System Division, Windows Client Marketing Group, Developer and Platform Evangelism Group, and the Server and Tools Business Group.
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by proforma on Thu 1st Feb 2007 07:46 UTC
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Member since:
2005-08-27

"Rats leaving a sinking ship?"

This statement is exactly why I don't bother coming to this forum often.

This forum reeks of people who are misinformed, arrogant for nothing, and contantly spreading FUD.

It's not that I am so pro-microsoft, but because a lot of people on here just post non-sense and pure fantasy.

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by twenex on Thu 1st Feb 2007 09:12 in reply to "sad..."
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

"Rats leaving a sinking ship?"

This statement is exactly why I don't bother coming to this forum often.

This forum reeks of people who are misinformed, arrogant for nothing, and contantly spreading FUD.

It's not that I am so pro-microsoft, but because a lot of people on here just post non-sense and pure fantasy.


FYI, even Gates is worried that Microsoft is turning into the next DEC.

The only fantasies around here are that Windows competes on its own merits and that people actually choose it.

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by kaiwai on Thu 1st Feb 2007 10:59 in reply to "RE: sad..."
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

FYI, even Gates is worried that Microsoft is turning into the next DEC.

The only fantasies around here are that Windows competes on its own merits and that people actually choose it.


Actually, he isn't worried; Gates is gone; what Balmer who is the CEO is worried about is Microsoft becoming two reliant on their two chief products for the majority of their profit and revenue - hence the reason they've branched out to other areas like XBox, Zune and online services.

The XBox360 has been a special case though; they've got a good leg up compared to PS3 and its numerous problems that its had, from release to crappy firmware updates.

The Zune is going to be an interesting case study given that they're trying to enter a market, that quite frankly, has already been won; now unless Apple does something *really* stupid in the future, its going to be like pushing shit up a hill given the amount of embeddedness iPod has in today's popular culture; to over turn it would require a miracle, luck and some stupid decisions on Apple's part.

On the service front, Microsoft still doesn't get it; they assume that branding 'does it all' - their services aren't popular because they suck; no, I'm not going to go into the subtle marketing gobblygoop which Microsoft executives spew; having experimented with MSN, and the new encarnation, Live! for a few months, I still keep coming back to using GMail/Google for all my needs.

What is going to kill them in the future is the failure of the new markets they enter into; thats what will cost them, and given the push which Microsoft is under to grow at, what I would consider, unsustainable rates of growth, its going to be a rocky road for investers given their cluelessness to the fact that the markets Microsoft dominates are mature, and little growth will come from them anytime soon.

Edited 2007-02-01 11:04

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RE: sad...
by Ford Prefect on Thu 1st Feb 2007 16:04 in reply to "sad..."
Ford Prefect Member since:
2006-01-16

What's the problem, take it with some humor!

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