Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 16:43 UTC, submitted by mwtomlinson
Novell and Ximian The Free Software Foundation is reviewing Novell's right to sell new versions of Linux operating system software after the open-source community criticized Novell for teaming up with Microsoft. "The community of people wants to do anything they can to interfere with this deal and all deals like it. They have every reason to be deeply concerned that this is the beginning of a significant patent aggression by Microsoft," Eben Moglen, the Foundation's general counsel, said on Friday. Update: The FSF claims this is being hyped.
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FUD...
by jjezabek on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 17:15 UTC
jjezabek
Member since:
2005-08-07

What control does the FSF have over Linux? AFAIK none at all. OK, they can ban Novell from using new versions of GCC, binutils and the rest of the GNU userland tools. But they have absolutely no control over the kernel itself!

BTW - are they planning to change their license to explicitly disallow the use by Novell?

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RE: FUD...
by molnarcs on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 18:03 in reply to "FUD..."
molnarcs Member since:
2005-09-10

Linux, in this context, means Linux the OS, not the kernel. And Linux as an OS would be pretty much crippled without the GNU tool(chain)s.

I think the Novell controversy will gain more attention as more and more free software projects switch to GPL v3 - which is design to prevent such patent deals that Novell entered with Microsoft. Which is a good thing imho - such patent deals runs contrary to the spirit of the GPL, though not the letter of v2.

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RE[2]: FUD...
by Hiev on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 18:09 in reply to "RE: FUD..."
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

And in concecuense we will have more GPLv3 and less usuability in Linux, less formats for the user, forget about ipod compatiblity, etc, etc, and in concecuense less users meaning the dead of the main GPL project, Linux, companies can fork BSD or give to it more support, I say change all the software you can to GPLv3 and see how its popularity falls, just like GNUSense distro w/o the ability to use mp3, something users demands.

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RE: FUD...
by rayiner on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 18:28 in reply to "FUD..."
rayiner Member since:
2005-07-06

The kernel by itself doesn't do much good. The GNU user-land can function with a different kernel (see GNU/kFreeBSD), but you'd be hard-pressed to build a usable Linux desktop without any GNU software.

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RE[2]: FUD...
by Hiev on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 18:32 in reply to "RE: FUD..."
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

You are right, but nobody is trying to avoid GPLv2 just GPLv3, now in embedbed devices the kernel is an important part.

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RE[2]: FUD...
by jango on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 21:39 in reply to "FUD..."
jango Member since:
2006-11-22

gnome is owned by the FSF imagine if gnome was licensed under the gpl

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