Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 16:43 UTC, submitted by mwtomlinson
Novell and Ximian The Free Software Foundation is reviewing Novell's right to sell new versions of Linux operating system software after the open-source community criticized Novell for teaming up with Microsoft. "The community of people wants to do anything they can to interfere with this deal and all deals like it. They have every reason to be deeply concerned that this is the beginning of a significant patent aggression by Microsoft," Eben Moglen, the Foundation's general counsel, said on Friday. Update: The FSF claims this is being hyped.
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RE[2]: So sad
by pandronic on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 20:00 UTC in reply to "RE: So sad"
pandronic
Member since:
2006-05-18

Well, I'm sure that my local PC Store can put FreeDos or Linux on your new system if you want to scrape a few bucks off the price, and then you go home and put your old Windows on it, or take the latest version from your favorite warez site. I know a lot of people do that. Sure, technically, in this case, you can add 1000$ (the price of the system) to your multi-billion figures.

As a long time Windows user, I ventured into the Linux world with the hope of getting a free replacement OS for Windows. After a few years, all I could accomplish was to set up some boxes with OpenOffice and Firefox for the most basic office needs. I started with an open mind, set to give Linux a fair chance, but I'm getting sick of meddling around with configuration files, goggling all day long to find out how to share a stinking folder, or reading endless forums to figure out the simplest of tasks. In my opinion Linux is either flawed, or designed for people with far more time than me ... or both.

Companies like Novell have proven to bring exactly what Linux lacked: a bit of logic and user-friendliness.

Excuse me if I like to play MP3s, view WMVs correctly, use Windows fonts, use my video card at all its potential, open DOCs reliably and so on. This is the only chance that Linux gets from me, and I applaud Novell for making a deal with MS, if that means even a 1% improvement in user experience.

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RE[3]: So sad
by twenex on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 20:24 in reply to "RE[2]: So sad"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Well, I'm sure that my local PC Store can put FreeDos or Linux on your new system if you want to scrape a few bucks off the price, and then you go home and put your old Windows on it, or take the latest version from your favorite warez site. I know a lot of people do that. Sure, technically, in this case, you can add 1000$ (the price of the system) to your multi-billion figures.

I hate to break it to you, but millions of computers sold on the basis of their hardware configuration and/or price, which come preinstalled with Windows against the wishes of their purchasers, get wiped by people who want nothing to do with it and installed with some flavour of Linux or BSD.

Excuse me if I like to play MP3s, view WMVs correctly, use Windows fonts, use my video card at all its potential, open DOCs reliably and so on. This is the only chance that Linux gets from me, and I applaud Novell for making a deal with MS, if that means even a 1% improvement in user experience.

Well gee, I can do all that on my Linux machine, and the fonts and themese I have on it look better than most Windows machines I see.

All this MS deal will mean, if it is successful, is that MS gets to steal Linux.

Edited 2007-02-03 20:27

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RE[4]: So sad
by pandronic on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 21:21 in reply to "RE[3]: So sad"
pandronic Member since:
2006-05-18

Well gee, I can do all that on my Linux machine, and the fonts and themese I have on it look better than most Windows machines I see.

Well gee, so have I ... three days and a lot of goggling later. But still my remote control doesn't work, Macromedia Flash kind of runs in Wine, my PPPoE connection doesn't disconnect by itself ... well most of the time, Banshee crashes when I play something, so I'm runing Exaile and I could go on. Everything ... kind of works.

I'm not trying to make Linux look bad, all I'm saying is that the community shouldn't dismiss companies that pour money into Linux development, and shouldn't put their view of freedom over functionality at all cost.

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RE[3]: So sad
by nedvis on Sun 4th Feb 2007 06:31 in reply to "RE[2]: So sad"
nedvis Member since:
2006-01-02

"...Excuse me if I like to play MP3s, view WMVs correctly, use Windows fonts, use my video card at all its potential, open DOCs reliably and so on. "
OK , I'm with you,but what Novell did specifically to improve your Linux experience regarding mp3, MS Word *.doc document format and with your video card.NOTHING!!!

You should try Vector Linux 5.8 or DreamLinux-Multimedia or PSLinuxOS.

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RE[3]: So sad
by deb2006 on Sun 4th Feb 2007 14:49 in reply to "RE[2]: So sad"
deb2006 Member since:
2006-06-26

I'd prefer if they sold PCs with FreeDOS. That way Linux could seriously compete with Windows.

There are at least four distributions that offer just that: openSUSE (the version one can buy in the store), Ubuntu, Linspire, and PC Linux OS.

Linux distributions are not responsible for license issues of Frauenhofer or Microsoft. And some have solutions to this dilemma. The solution is not - IS NOT - to make special deals with Microsoft. The source is and remains open. As long as Novell doesn't have a clue of how the ;Linux community ticks, they'd better stay away from a Linux distribution.

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