Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Thu 8th Feb 2007 22:07 UTC, submitted by Floris Lambrechts
Privacy, Security, Encryption More than one million devices have already shipped with LinuxBIOS, and the growth is continuing. In his interview for the upcoming FOSDEM 2007 conference, LinuxBIOS creator Ronald Minnich talks about vendor support, the One Laptop Per Child BIOS, and his reluctance towards EFI.
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RE[4]: EFI vs LinuxBIOS
by Dima on Thu 8th Feb 2007 23:46 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: EFI vs LinuxBIOS"
Dima
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2006-04-06

But the nonsense begins, if you're seeing a need in overclocking your hardware.

A few years ago, I bought a motherboard with an AMD Athlon XP 2000+ processor. But, it would not run at 2GHz by default. At the store, employees made it very clear that I would need to change the clock speed from 100 to 133 - and even the box with the CPU mentioned the number 133.

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RE[5]: EFI vs LinuxBIOS
by helf on Fri 9th Feb 2007 00:17 in reply to "RE[4]: EFI vs LinuxBIOS"
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2005-07-06

That's because an AMD 2000+ CPU does *not* run at 2GHz. The 2000+ rating means its comparable to an Intel CPU running at 2GHz. A pretty pointless rating system actually.

Unless I'm horribly mistaken on this, in which case, correct me.

Edited 2007-02-09 00:17

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RE[6]: EFI vs LinuxBIOS
by Dima on Fri 9th Feb 2007 00:23 in reply to "RE[5]: EFI vs LinuxBIOS"
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I know that... It's really 1666MHz. But without overclocking, it would be 1250.

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RE[6]: EFI vs LinuxBIOS
by h3rman on Fri 9th Feb 2007 08:17 in reply to "RE[5]: EFI vs LinuxBIOS"
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2006-08-09

That's because an AMD 2000+ CPU does *not* run at 2GHz. The 2000+ rating means its comparable to an Intel CPU running at 2GHz. A pretty pointless rating system actually.

Unless I'm horribly mistaken on this, in which case, correct me.


I'm not sure, but I think it's not "an Intel cpu running at 2GHz" but an Intel Pentium 4 cpu running at 2GHz. My Athlon XP 2600+ @1.9 GHz is a tiny bit slower than a P4 2.6 Ghz, so it's not that far from the truth.

Compare it to other Intel cpus, though, and the xxxx+ thing doesn't make any sense at all. Still I can understand why AMD came up with this, because in the P4 era clockspeed actually did not mean real world speed. But people are easily fooled.

Yet AMD have to stop it some time because it would be bizarre to take the P4, one of the cpus Intel shouldn't be proud of at all, as some kind of a golden standard for benchmarking.

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RE[6]: EFI vs LinuxBIOS
by flywheel on Fri 9th Feb 2007 12:17 in reply to "RE[5]: EFI vs LinuxBIOS"
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2005-12-28

That's because an AMD 2000+ CPU does *not* run at 2GHz. The 2000+ rating means its comparable to an Intel CPU running at 2GHz. A pretty pointless rating system actually.

Pointless ?? - not if your main competitor has build up the market on pure numbers.

BTW the K7 Performance Rating scheme compares the procesor performance with the Athlon Thunderbird.

The Performance Rating was cooked up by AMD, Cyrix and Centaur and originally was called Pentium Rating. That one was a comparison with the Pentium product line. Intel didn't liked that and took the matter to court. That is why the rating scheme today is called Performance rating and does not compare with the Intel Pentum productline.
But the Thunderbird sort of matched the PIV and thereby you get a sort-of-comparison with the PIV line.

With the arrival of the K8 productline - AMD has changed the comparison index, I have no idea of what they compare with today, but it is not the Thunderbird and it s not the Pentium product line.

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RE[6]: EFI vs LinuxBIOS
by renox on Fri 9th Feb 2007 13:02 in reply to "RE[5]: EFI vs LinuxBIOS"
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2005-07-06

>The 2000+ rating means its comparable to an Intel CPU running at 2GHz.
More precisely, to a P4 running at 2 GHz.

>A pretty pointless rating system actually.
Apparently you don't understand marketing..

People used the clock of a computer as a measure of its performance, so Intel built CPUs with a high clock but not very efficient, AMD not willing to waste power didn't go to the high clock rate and seemed inferior for the customer, so they provided a P4-clock-equivalent performance number, a clever idea.

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