Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Aug 2005 17:13 UTC, submitted by R_T_F_M
FreeBSD FreeBSD developer Scott Long said on Thursday that the next version of the open source BSD-based operating system, planned for release in September, includes support for "a lot more" wireless cards and for wireless security standards such as the Wi-Fi Protected Access.
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RE[3]: Lies meet truth
by corentin on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 05:43 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Lies meet truth"
corentin
Member since:
2005-08-08

> Open source means the source code is Open at all time both the original and derivative , dont even have to give away the derivative but once you paid for it you must get the source code too , thats what Open Source really is , otherwise its a traitor license passing itself off as Open Source.

You definitely have a weird definition for the word 'open'. Is an open bottle of wine a bottle that is open at all time and that can not be closed, too ?

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RE[4]: Lies meet truth
by ulib on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 07:51 in reply to "RE[3]: Lies meet truth"
ulib Member since:
2005-07-07

Actually, his definition is even weirder. The code would be "Open" and "Free" only if it forces some *other* code, written by *other* people, to be disclosed as well (that is what GPL dictates).

Seems to me that this idea of "freedom" is much closer to socialism than to liberalism. I know the GPL creators deny it, but it really looks like that (to me, at least).

With academic licenses (BSD, MIT, Apache) you can do whatever the heck you want with the code, as long as you give proper credits. This is much closer to my idea of freedom.

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RE[5]: Lies meet truth
by Moulinneuf on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 11:21 in reply to "RE[4]: Lies meet truth"
Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

"The code would be "Open" and "Free" "

I am talking about *Open Source* and *Free Software*. Not Open and Free , your not even discussing that either , your discussing , How the GPL is not understood at all by you and how far and low you can go to show it as a bad choice.

Whats always funny is that , for you protection and defense of Software Source code and availibility and equals right for everyone is second to your *claim* at a not existent given right of doing what you whant and primarily your not existant and not given right to close the source code and its availaibility in derivatives.

Care to show me in the Protection clauses and License you discuss where closing the source code in derivatives is given as a right :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_license

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_License

Its not , but your obviously claiming it as a right.

"With academic licenses (BSD, MIT, Apache) you can do whatever the heck you want with the code"

No , but because they are traitor license used by thiefs with some invented rights that where claimed. Traitor because no one said : its not allowed or given as a right. Then the reality is thief are allowed to make the rules.

"this is much closer to my idea of freedom."

You have no idea what Freedom means , Freedoms come from equals rights and the defense of those rights by other freedom people.

Freedom for me is not the availibitlity to take freedom and things from others without permission from other as I see fit , its not either to put anyone else or myself in a cage.

- Moulinneuf

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RE[4]: Lies meet truth
by Moulinneuf on Mon 22nd Aug 2005 10:14 in reply to "RE[3]: Lies meet truth"
Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

"You definitely have a weird definition for the word 'open'"

I am not talking about Open , you are , I am only stating perfectly and very clearly what Open Source is for software and what its suppose to mean.

"Is an open bottle of wine a bottle that is open at all time and that can not be closed, too ?"

An open bottle of wine is not Open Source and is not software at all.

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