Linked by John Mills on Tue 13th Feb 2007 21:49 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "The Ubuntu Technical Board has made two technical decisions of which we would like to inform the Ubuntu community. Both of these decisions concern the upcoming 7.04 release of Ubuntu, scheduled for mid-April." Ubuntu 7.04 will not activate binary video drivers by default, essentially meaning nothing will change from the previous releases. The second change is a major blow to the PowerPC architecture and thus owners of Apple PPC hardware: "The PowerPC edition of Ubuntu will be reclassified as unofficial. The PowerPC software itself and supporting infrastructure will continue to be available, and supported by a community team." Translation: Ubuntu PPC can shake hands with the dodo.
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linux-it
Member since:
2006-07-13

well, you do seem to have a point, but let's think a bit further than this.

Abandoning working solutions is a major set-back for linux. Our tendency as a company is to prevent the support hassle so we try to get supported hardware for a strat and that makes sense. Our wifi works, we don't need to support broken nstallations as they are not borked anyways.

The same holds for video stuff. If people like bling (and so far I've seen that they do -- they see vista and we go futher than aero with compiz, beryl, metisse, lg3d), we should have it. Point.

If you really want to be pure, you will have to understand that it's a major setback in functionality and people will abandon easily linux.

That is also the reason why some distributions are not too well accepted -- it delays the useability too much because of the "purity" the developers want.

It's fine, all ok, but if we want to go better, we'll have to accept a few things. thinks like some closed source drivers, ndiswrapper, deals between companies that some don't like.

The real world says: hey, I/we want a heterogenous network, else we'l have to ditch linux. Not the right route.

So yes, sometimes some thinks are being thought of that you and I dislike, but please, don't try to stall linux, like FSFs work with GPLv3 tries too.

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ralph Member since:
2005-07-10

Abandoning working solutions is a major set-back for linux.

You seem to totally miss his point. These "compromise" solutions don't work, so let's concentrate on the ones that do work (like OpenBSD did) and scrap those half-working solutions.

Now feel of course free to agree or disagree with that.

P.S.: I don't think we need any more anti-FSF-fud here.

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linux-it Member since:
2006-07-13

I am afraid that you missed *my* point.

I said that _we_ don't have theis support hassle because we get supported hardware. There *is* no need to use halfbaked solutions.

Anyone seems to understand that running linux or windows on a ZX80 doesn't work; still people just buy hardware to find out that it's not really supported on their OS.

What normally is being done:

1) select OS
2) select hardware that fits 1).

if you don't you indeed have support hassles.

Regarding the FSF stuff: I wrote that as both his statement and FSF statement are approximately the same: progress is not wanted. And I guess that it's a mistake, a big one. So far, the current incarnation of the GPLv3 shows clearly that it _will_ set us back.

How can that be FUD? It's the exact problem we have right now. Two parties:

1) we don't want linux to succeed so let's try to stop good things in it's tracks

2) we want working stuff so if that makes some less desirable things to happen, so be it.

It seems that both the $OP and you are on the first camp. Nothing wrong with that, it's all about freedom to choose.

I think it's bad. No FUD here. (think about why we as a company don't have support hassles and others do, we mostly see the problems in camp 1 -- it's just what _we_ see. your reality may be different.)

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