Linked by John Mills on Tue 13th Feb 2007 21:49 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu "The Ubuntu Technical Board has made two technical decisions of which we would like to inform the Ubuntu community. Both of these decisions concern the upcoming 7.04 release of Ubuntu, scheduled for mid-April." Ubuntu 7.04 will not activate binary video drivers by default, essentially meaning nothing will change from the previous releases. The second change is a major blow to the PowerPC architecture and thus owners of Apple PPC hardware: "The PowerPC edition of Ubuntu will be reclassified as unofficial. The PowerPC software itself and supporting infrastructure will continue to be available, and supported by a community team." Translation: Ubuntu PPC can shake hands with the dodo.
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I would point out that "*BSD and the BSD way" vs "Linux and the Linux way" is, in itself, a free choice.

While acknowledging that there are many more factors involved than the topic we are discussing, I will point out that Linux has solidly trounced *BSD for popularity.

I suspect that someone might point out that, by that standard, Microsoft has the best methodology of all, so I will address that now.

Linux and *BSD started out from very similar positions. If anything, Linux came from behind. As BSD fans are eager to point out, BSD has been around longer. And from a technical standpoint, *BSD was still ahead at the time that its legal troubles ended.

Neither had the kind of marketing muscle that has always insured Windows' success in the marketplace.

Maybe a lot of other factors are involved. But Linux can't be doing things too terribly unpragmaticly and still enjoy the continued lead that it has over *BSD.

But remember that in my philosophy "*BSD and the BSD way" is just another choice. And one that is no doubt a good fit for many.

I can understand your position because I used to hold it. But not anymore.

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Janizary Member since:

Certainly it's a free choice, but it's not the pragmatic choice, pragmatism dictates the clean direct path to getting the job done right. Anarchism doesn't tie into that.

The popularity of the various Linux-based operating systems verus the various BSD-derived systems isn't in question. But saying Linux and *BSD is not the right way to look at things, instead saying Ubuntu has stomped FreeBSD or Fedora Core has clobbered OpenBSD, or even that OpenSuSE has desimated NetBSD works better.

There is no uniform entity known as Linux, that's what we've all just agreed to, and we know that the three major BSDs are there own systems. So let's deal with these based on operating systems when talking popularity - Windows 2000 is still more popular than Windows XP.

Microsoft's methodology of system development is that of a mostly uniform system, it's tools are almost exactly the same between different editions of the same operating system, what does that have to do with pragmatism or lack thereof in the way that Linux-based systems develop?

Going off on your unrelated tangent, who cares what marketshare anyone has? The popularity of a system does not reflect it's pragmatism, only it's popularity.

I have no idea why you associate popularity with system development directness - American Idol is popular, does that mean it's pragmatic? The connection makes no sense, right? That's what you're saying.

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archiesteel Member since:

Certainly it's a free choice, but it's not the pragmatic choice, pragmatism dictates the clean direct path to getting the job done right. Anarchism doesn't tie into that.

I'm not sure "pragmatism" means what you think it means...

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