FreeBSD developer Scott Long said on Thursday that the next version of the open source BSD-based operating system, planned for release in September, includes support for
"a lot more" wireless cards and for wireless security standards such as the Wi-Fi Protected Access.
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Member since:2005-08-18
"I am talking about *Open Source* and *Free Software*."
No, you're talking about *your* definiton of Open Source and Free Software, not the commonly accepted definiton of them.
"Freedom for me is not the availibitlity to take freedom and things from others without permission from other as I see fit , its not either to put anyone else or myself in a cage."
You're not taking anything with the BSD license, you are using a copy of something someone else made. Taking would mean the removal of something from the original user but clearly that's not the case here.
Member since:2005-07-06
"No, you're talking about *your* definiton of Open Source and Free Software "
No , not at all , I am talking about the real definition of those terms not about the definition for certification which whas politicaly motivated in its making and modification by the body doing the certifications, I dont claim to have coined the terms Open Source and Free Software they existed long before the creation of the certifications body , I just know there real meanings and its not to allow the creation and propagation of more closed source software and of proprietary software its quite the oppposite.
"You're not taking anything with the BSD license,"
There is no BSD' license , only Protection clause. ( no rights are given hence they are not license )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License
"A license (American English) or licence (Commonwealth English) is a document or agreement >>>giving<<< permission to do something."
"you are using a copy of something someone else made."
In Open Source there is no copy , you have access to the Source code at all time Original and derivative and are allowed to modify it as you see fit.
"Taking would mean the removal of something "
The removal of access to source code wich is a fundamental right of Open Source is always forgotten by those who claim themself non existant rights.
"from the original user"
Lets also not forget about the derivative user and developper ( those who are not thiefs and traitors ) unlike what your suggesting and doing.
"but clearly that's not the case here."
Whats clear is that Open Source is now Closed source and free Software is now Proprietary software when traitors and thief claims themself non existant rights and no one is there to protect or reclaim them.
When the code is truely Open Source and trueley Free Software it can be used on any platform and on any hardware all you need is some recompiling , no one can stop you from using it changing it and modifying it as those right are clearly >>>given<<< to you by the license.
- Moulinneuf
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2005-07-06
"The code would be "Open" and "Free" "
I am talking about *Open Source* and *Free Software*. Not Open and Free , your not even discussing that either , your discussing , How the GPL is not understood at all by you and how far and low you can go to show it as a bad choice.
Whats always funny is that , for you protection and defense of Software Source code and availibility and equals right for everyone is second to your *claim* at a not existent given right of doing what you whant and primarily your not existant and not given right to close the source code and its availaibility in derivatives.
Care to show me in the Protection clauses and License you discuss where closing the source code in derivatives is given as a right :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_license
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_License
Its not , but your obviously claiming it as a right.
"With academic licenses (BSD, MIT, Apache) you can do whatever the heck you want with the code"
No , but because they are traitor license used by thiefs with some invented rights that where claimed. Traitor because no one said : its not allowed or given as a right. Then the reality is thief are allowed to make the rules.
"this is much closer to my idea of freedom."
You have no idea what Freedom means , Freedoms come from equals rights and the defense of those rights by other freedom people.
Freedom for me is not the availibitlity to take freedom and things from others without permission from other as I see fit , its not either to put anyone else or myself in a cage.
- Moulinneuf