Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 14th Feb 2007 22:53 UTC, submitted by ronaldst
KDE "Focusing again on applications this week, specifically I'll look at two of the promising document viewers for KDE 4, Okular and Ligature. They are two of the rising stars of KDE 4, but they both have their roots as KDE 3 applications that have grown up."
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RE[6]: KDE4 goals?
by nutshell42 on Thu 15th Feb 2007 12:06 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: KDE4 goals?"
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2006-01-12

Does it really make sense to have a Ardour competitor for KDE?

There are half a dozen DEs and myriads of WMs because there are enough developers and users for all of them but I don't know how many professional audio apps are sustainable at the same time.

I've always used KDE and GTK apps together and the overhead isn't that bad. KDE even has qt-gtk and kgtk to skin gtk apps and have them use KDE dialogs (is there anything similar for GNOME?) so there's not even much of an aesthetic reason for using only Qt or only GTK apps (hell, you can even change the button order in KDE =).

The best solution would be if large applications like e.g. Ardour, Rosegarden or Office apps had a desktop agnostic backend. That's perhaps not feasible for all of them, so Portland might be the next best thing.

I really think we should get away from this "either QT or GTK" mindset. Both Windows and OSX use half a dozen different toolkits and styles(*) but on Linux for some reason many people seem to run amok if even one of their apps is slightly different from the others.

(*)Point in case: I currently use Windows and the apps I have running are: Opera, Windows Explorer, XChat, WinAmp, ZoneAlarm, FDM, CrystalCPU, FreeAV. Every single one uses a different toolkit and style and while my desktop might not win a pageant I can't say that it does bother me much.

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RE[7]: KDE4 goals?
by superstoned on Thu 15th Feb 2007 18:22 in reply to "RE[6]: KDE4 goals?"
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2005-07-07

I SOO agree with you... I love KDE, prefer KDE apps, but if GTK apps would have some decent KDE integration (look & feel & icons is already done by gtk-qt, after all) I wouldn't mind the overhead, if its only for specific apps. I prefer the basic apps to be KDE apps, as those generally have a more flexible interface (eg compare drag'n'drop of tabs etc in konqueror with other browsers, or see Konsole...).

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