Compiz: Update on xdevconf07, Beryl Situation
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 17th Feb 2007 18:45 UTC, submitted by GhePeU
X11, Window Managers David Reveman writes: "I'd like to get all of you updated on the compiz related things discussed at the X developer conference that was held last week. My talk was mainly focused on 'what's next' and how to get desktop compositing in X to the next level." He also discussed the fork: "I had the chance to talk to Quinn Storm from the beryl project during xdevconf. I would have hoped that the current situation with beryl could be improved but it seems like Quinn at least isn't interested in that. However, after talking to Quinn it's very clear to me that the fork was partially motivated by assumptions that were wrong."
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RE: Beryl deserves its props.
by Headrush on Sat 17th Feb 2007 22:41 UTC in reply to "Beryl deserves its props."
Headrush
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2006-01-03

No one is knocking Beryl developers.

I don't put much merit into the "choices" of most end users either. I hate this argument for anything as most users are sheep and have no understanding of underlying technologies. (Windows as an example)

Maybe for a game you can get away with the end result looks OK system, but for any project that will future projects will build on, it's just as important how you get to that point.

People take these things too personal and read way too much into it. Its a difference in methodology: get things working now and adapt for future changes when they come, or only build "proper" solutions and get to the end result when all is ready.

Is either right or wrong, no, but we all have our preference to approach. Stating which doesn't mean you have "sour grapes". All he stated was he thought that methodology was wrong.

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RE[2]: Beryl deserves its props.
by anshu on Sat 17th Feb 2007 23:04 in reply to "RE: Beryl deserves its props."
anshu Member since:
2005-09-03

humm ok agree. so its like , for some how you get results (in proper way) matters, and for some How fast you get results and developments matters. and it looks like I choose to be with faster horse ;) .

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Headrush Member since:
2006-01-03

That's great and what's great with open source projects, you can choose.

As long as the faster horse gets to the same finish line, that's cool, but just saying you jumped the first 3 hurdles first and not getting to the finish line is no accomplishment. :-)

At least that's more how I read the comments from David.

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jkroon Member since:
2006-03-20

From your statement I'm guessing your not a developer. Going with the faster horse like Beryl has done will lead to spagetthi code a la Win32 API. I just hope Reveman and the other Compiz/X.org developers stick to their plan and don't loose motivation because of your ungrateful attitudes.

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