Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 17th Feb 2007 18:59 UTC, submitted by elsewhere
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "Some bad blood between Linus Torvalds and GNOME developers is flaring up again. Previously, Torvalds has said that Linux users should switch to KDE instead of GNOME because of the GNOME team's 'users are idiots' mentality. Now he has 'put his money where his mouth is' by submitting patches to GNOME in order to have it behave as he likes. This week, on the Linux Foundation's (formerly OSDL) Desktop Architects mailing list, the two sides are going mano a mano." Can I interest you in a pair of these and these?
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RE[2]: Why, oh, why..
by Doc Pain on Sun 18th Feb 2007 01:16 UTC in reply to "RE: Why, oh, why.."
Doc Pain
Member since:
2006-10-08

"Do these people install linuxes so often that this becomes an issue ?"

Surely, there are some who think that if something does not work (meaning, they don't know how to make it work), the whole system has to be reinstalled. Or maybe they got spoiled by the concept of reinstalling the OS all three months which is very popular with some MICROS~1 products, at least here in Germany. :-)

"Or they don't know how to save their settings ?"

Same here: It's possible! My uncle uses KDE for a week now. He created a user, configured everything, then he wanted to change the user name, so he deleted user "foo" and created a new user "bar". Can you imagine how surprised he was when all his settings were gone? "How can I undo this?" he asked panically... sorry I could not help him. This leads me to a question: Has KDM a function to rename a user (should affect /etc/passwd and /etc/group)?

"Considering this, I always found KDE more easy to manage and always becoming easier, while when doing similar minor changes in Gnome often resulted in hairs being pulled out, faces getting deep scratches and mothers' being mentioned in not so polite contexts."

While I personally had the need to change the look & feel of KDE (colors, window decorations, mouse focus etc.), which was very easy using the KDE control center, I did not notice the tendency to do this in GNOME. I like the concept of manually maintainable configuration files (text files) in GNOME which allows me to do remote changes with only a SSH session available, but I have to admit that I like the KDE control center because it makes configuration very easy. The content is structured well so you can find very quickly the aspects you want to change. But I'm not sure I could to this via CLI.

"What I've always wanted to have in Gnome is a master switch to change into some uber user mode where I'd have the flexibility and modularity of kde behaving like gnome. Yeah, tell me about bad dreams ;) "

Something like this?

% su -
Password:
# setenv DISPLAY :0.0
# _

Das Uberbefehl! Here you go. :-)

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RE[3]: Why, oh, why..
by l3v1 on Sun 18th Feb 2007 09:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Why, oh, why.."
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

This leads me to a question: Has KDM a function to rename a user (should affect /etc/passwd and /etc/group)?

KUser should be close.

Something like this?

Well, not quite, but probably the closest thing of how that dream could end ;)

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