Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 17th Feb 2007 18:45 UTC, submitted by GhePeU
X11, Window Managers David Reveman writes: "I'd like to get all of you updated on the compiz related things discussed at the X developer conference that was held last week. My talk was mainly focused on 'what's next' and how to get desktop compositing in X to the next level." He also discussed the fork: "I had the chance to talk to Quinn Storm from the beryl project during xdevconf. I would have hoped that the current situation with beryl could be improved but it seems like Quinn at least isn't interested in that. However, after talking to Quinn it's very clear to me that the fork was partially motivated by assumptions that were wrong."
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RE[5]: sour grapes?
by Yagami on Sun 18th Feb 2007 17:00 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: sour grapes?"
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er ... do you really want that list ?!

and i am sorry , but i dont use compiz because i use beryl.
if beryl didnt exist , i would use kwin !

i do apreciate and respect D.R. and hope he continues to work in X development , but as compiz ( window manager / composite manager ) goes , it sucks!

its not beryl's fault... compiz just sucks

plus , i dunno why is this mentality of "beryl will become obsolete , metisse will become obsolete " ( read the forums , its in there ). Are you guys seeing too much Star Trek Borg episodes ?
this users will over time choose compiz , and beryl will die mentality... boy oh boy

just to remind you of something : wrong ... i for one , will choose kde4 , no matter if beryl dies or not

for someone who is mostly unbiased , and respects both side's work ( at least the very important and tecnological work of David r. ) , reading your forum and blog posts just makes you look like angry geeks

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RE[6]: sour grapes?
by on Sun 18th Feb 2007 18:50 in reply to "RE[5]: sour grapes?" Member since:

Yeah i really want that list ;)

So you thnik Compiz sucks ? Well beryl is fork of compiz... and after fork it still syncs compiz code so you shuld now say BERYL sucks too, because 99 % beryl "core" code is still compiz code, there ware no significantly changes. And the almost all users and developers of beryl dont say nothing about that in official statments or official discussion (this disscussion is good example). Only poison ;) and personal attacks, Star Trek ? angry geeks ? so i this is your technical arguments ? constructive comments ?

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RE[7]: sour grapes?
by Yagami on Sun 18th Feb 2007 19:12 in reply to "RE[6]: sour grapes?"
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ok , you will get that list , dont forget tomorrow to check this out.

if beryl is 99 % compiz , then , heck , the beryl developers did a miracle in that 1 % code !

every version i try compiz , i dont like it ! its animations sucks ( expecially of rotating the cube , its nothing like beryl ) and other problems. i am not exagerating when saying that i prefer kwin to compiz.

now , maybe your native language isn't english, but surely you would understand that when i was mentioning angry geeks , those were not my technical arguments.

go into compiz's forum , and read it. then go into beryl's forum and read it also. then you will see which side looks like angry geeks

constructive comments ?! ok , here is one !
compiz and its developers are the root program , and the one doing the important coding. they are more skilled coders and working on what needs to be done , not only for compiz , or beryl , but for all desktops that work with X. its credit to them and they are due.

but they completly miss the point when they talk so badly and insult so badly the beryl developers. they want the fame and fortune. they make a point of always saying beryl is full of hacks and compiz will make beryl and metisse obsolete. that compiz "will win" in the end ! that it was a mistake for beryl to exist !

this makes it look like a race , surviving on a jungle ! it is not !

beryl should give more credits to compiz.

and compiz should learn usuability wise, what beryl is doing.

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