Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 17th Feb 2007 18:45 UTC, submitted by GhePeU
X11, Window Managers David Reveman writes: "I'd like to get all of you updated on the compiz related things discussed at the X developer conference that was held last week. My talk was mainly focused on 'what's next' and how to get desktop compositing in X to the next level." He also discussed the fork: "I had the chance to talk to Quinn Storm from the beryl project during xdevconf. I would have hoped that the current situation with beryl could be improved but it seems like Quinn at least isn't interested in that. However, after talking to Quinn it's very clear to me that the fork was partially motivated by assumptions that were wrong."
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RE[6]: sour grapes?
by kondzior.p@gmail.com on Sun 18th Feb 2007 18:50 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: sour grapes?"
kondzior.p@gmail.com
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2007-02-18

Yeah i really want that list ;)

So you thnik Compiz sucks ? Well beryl is fork of compiz... and after fork it still syncs compiz code so you shuld now say BERYL sucks too, because 99 % beryl "core" code is still compiz code, there ware no significantly changes. And the almost all users and developers of beryl dont say nothing about that in official statments or official discussion (this disscussion is good example). Only poison ;) and personal attacks, Star Trek ? angry geeks ? so i this is your technical arguments ? constructive comments ?

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RE[7]: sour grapes?
by Yagami on Sun 18th Feb 2007 19:12 in reply to "RE[6]: sour grapes?"
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

ok , you will get that list , dont forget tomorrow to check this out.

if beryl is 99 % compiz , then , heck , the beryl developers did a miracle in that 1 % code !

every version i try compiz , i dont like it ! its animations sucks ( expecially of rotating the cube , its nothing like beryl ) and other problems. i am not exagerating when saying that i prefer kwin to compiz.

now , maybe your native language isn't english, but surely you would understand that when i was mentioning angry geeks , those were not my technical arguments.

go into compiz's forum , and read it. then go into beryl's forum and read it also. then you will see which side looks like angry geeks

constructive comments ?! ok , here is one !
compiz and its developers are the root program , and the one doing the important coding. they are more skilled coders and working on what needs to be done , not only for compiz , or beryl , but for all desktops that work with X. its credit to them and they are due.

but they completly miss the point when they talk so badly and insult so badly the beryl developers. they want the fame and fortune. they make a point of always saying beryl is full of hacks and compiz will make beryl and metisse obsolete. that compiz "will win" in the end ! that it was a mistake for beryl to exist !

this makes it look like a race , surviving on a jungle ! it is not !

beryl should give more credits to compiz.

and compiz should learn usuability wise, what beryl is doing.

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RE[8]: sour grapes?
by kondzior.p@gmail.com on Sun 18th Feb 2007 20:22 in reply to "RE[7]: sour grapes?"
kondzior.p@gmail.com Member since:
2007-02-18

Well i read both forums actively and on beryl forum when disccussion is getting more tuoch on compiz subject it seems that beryl community members looks like "angry geeks" but ofcours not all, there are two sides of this medal and so if diccussion on compiz forum is touching beryl subjects some people from compiz community show that they are angry about whole case. But imho they are showing some technical arguments in all disscussions so i thnik you are not fully right in this case.


if beryl is 99 % compiz , then , heck , the beryl developers did a miracle in that 1 % code !

every version i try compiz , i dont like it ! its animations sucks ( expecially of rotating the cube , its nothing like beryl ) and other problems. i am not exagerating when saying that i prefer kwin to compiz.


Pure your private user experience and "others problems", and! cube is plugin not core of compiz/beyrl right, so i thnik this is not miracle ;D of 1%

And i thnik none from the compiz forum was talking about matisse will be obsolate. Could you bring me some link for that topic i'm very interested about that.

and compiz should learn usuability wise, what beryl is doing.
Well i thnik usuabilitity is "personal feeling" of each person that is using software (here compiz/beryl). You could say that transparent cube is very usable... i culd argue you with that.. well this is personal user expeirance problem and i dont think compiz shuld lern from beryl in this case, we dont need fork of beryl ;-)

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