Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 19th Feb 2007 16:49 UTC, submitted by elsewhere
GNU, GPL, Open Source "Is open source still a grassroots social movement made up of idealistic underdogs trying to revolutionize an amoral industry? Or has it become a cloak used by IT vendors large and small to disguise ruthless and self-serving behavior? Some observers argue it's the latter. Despite occasional protests from old-timers - the heated backlash against the Microsoft-Novell détente, for example - open source has become so co-opted by mainstream IT, so transformed by 'accidental open sourcers' simply looking for a better business model, that it's lost its cherished moral edge."
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Oh boy...
by wolfman3k5 on Mon 19th Feb 2007 17:19 UTC
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2005-08-04

Just another one of this articles to get people all hyped up, and start a couple of flame wars. People don't really care anymore (for the most part) about software so much, as long as they can do what they need to do with it. For the most part commercial software is better when it comes to quality, and easier to use. After all, in 2007, why would Joe Average put up with Linux when he can have Windows Vista for $119 (OEM) or it comes on his PC, and Office 2007 for $149 (Instead of putting up with OOo)? In the long run, commercial software has become cheaper than Open Source / Free Software. After all, it's free because you can see / change the code, but most of the time you pay for support. and if not that, then isn't the time you put in worth nothing to learn to use some crappy "free" application / OS?
Think about it, think from a common sence perspective, think different. Buy a Mac and be a Fag.

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RE: Oh boy...
by samad on Mon 19th Feb 2007 17:29 in reply to "Oh boy..."
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2006-03-31

What you're describing is for average users. Linux and open-source isn't for average users who just want to surf the web and use Office. It's for more sophisticated users who like the beauty of software engineering in an open medium.

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RE: Oh boy...
by suryad on Mon 19th Feb 2007 18:23 in reply to "Oh boy..."
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2005-07-09

Vista?! Ok Office 2k7 I will give you...but Vista? Have you used it? IT honestly is nothing more than a prettier looking XP that has DRM and is slower for some reason along with a lot of overhead aka services running.

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RE[2]: Oh boy...
by sukru on Mon 19th Feb 2007 21:15 in reply to "RE: Oh boy..."
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2006-11-19

Well, I'm sorry to make this stray further from the main topic.

Yep Office 2007 is really nice as you said. It's actually revolutionary.

But Vista is also a big improvement over Xp. While not revolutionary, but evolutionary at least.

Many annoying interface bugs have been fixed and many utilities have been added (like when you tried to rename open files, you lost your modifications after an error message, now there is a retry. And start menu integrated search is very nice, yep it does a little bit more than google desktop).

Unless you have hardware incompatibilities (I've seen many cases, and find it normal atm), you'll have a much better experience with Vista. And actually it's a little bit faster on the same hardware (at least in my experience).

So please try to give Vista a chance before dismissing it altogether.

(Again sorry again for interrupting).

[i]Vista?! Ok Office 2k7 I will give you...but Vista? Have you used it? IT honestly is nothing more than a prettier looking XP that has DRM and is slower for some reason along with a lot of overhead aka services running[i]

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RE[2]: Oh boy...
by wolfman3k5 on Tue 20th Feb 2007 02:09 in reply to "RE: Oh boy..."
wolfman3k5 Member since:
2005-08-04

I'm typing this from my Vista PeeCee... (Athlon X2 4600+, 2GB DDR2, 2x320GB HDD, GeForce 7950, Theatre 650 Pro Tuner). Services can be configured just like in Linux. If whe're to talk about DRM then try Mac OS X, cause I have an iMac 20" and a MacBook, both Intel based... Anyway, DRM on Apple is even worse. DRM can be implemented on any OS, maybe it will be implemented even in Linux. DRM os for media files, like HD Movies, Movies and Music. Despite all the DRM, which by the way works only for the content you've legally purchased, like a Movie from Movielink, you'll still be able to play all your pirated DivX movies and Kazaa'ed mp3 files, and what not, heck, even newzbinned software and games... so gimme a break...

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RE[2]: Oh boy...
by Darkelve on Tue 20th Feb 2007 10:56 in reply to "RE: Oh boy..."
Darkelve Member since:
2006-02-06

"Vista?! Ok Office 2k7 I will give you...but Vista? Have you used it? IT honestly is nothing more than a prettier looking XP that has DRM and is slower for some reason along with a lot of overhead aka services running."

Might that Reason be the DRM you speak of?

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

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