Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Feb 2007 09:52 UTC, submitted by anonymous
KDE In the transition from KDE 3 to KDE 4, a new file manager, Dolphin, was often discussed and now officially moved to the base part of KDE. "I just stumbled over this message saying that the file manager Dolphin is now part of kdebase (of KDE 4): 'Moving Dolphin to kdebase, as discussed with Peter and others. The big plan is: Dolphin will become the default file manager (kicker buttons and file:/ links bring it up).' The question remains what now happens with Konqueror - keep in mind that one of the goals of KDE 4 was to only keep one app for each task inside the base packages. But with Dolphin as the potentially new file manager and Webkit as the new browser we may see Konqueror vanish."
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RE: I don't see why
by lindkvis on Tue 20th Feb 2007 16:17 UTC in reply to "I don't see why"
lindkvis
Member since:
2006-11-21

"What's wrong with Konqueror and what does Dolphin hold over it? I've installed Dolphin a while back and didn't see any advantage."

Konqueror has a messy and confusing interface with a steep learning curve.

It is not only bad for new users, but also bad for experienced users that don't want to spend time fiddling with their computer. Even if the operation or option you want to do is fairly simple, you still need to search for it for ages in order to find it.

Thus, while Konqueror is technically excellent it is a "Jack of all trades", but "master of none" type application that a very small selection of users absolutely adores, while the average user hates it.

And no: the people that post in online discussion forums are not representative for the average user. The average user wouldn't know that they are using an application called 'konqueror' and would just be annoyed that it seems so difficult to do the things they want to do.

Dolphin seems like a good attempt at leveraging the technical excellence of Konqueror in a good user interface.

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RE[2]: I don't see why
by Headrush on Tue 20th Feb 2007 17:35 in reply to "RE: I don't see why"
Headrush Member since:
2006-01-03

Can you give some more specific example.

I would agree that some visual elements should/can be removed, but I don't quite understand the steep learning curve.

Seems with the tree layout on the left and set to follow the current directory file browser on the right pane, file navigation is pretty simple to follow and understand, even for a new user.

Maybe a better argument would be that better defaults and layouts are needed.

Frankly I don't care which the KDE devs go with, but I have yet to hear many concrete examples of things Dolphin can do that Konqueror can't or couldn't be modified to do. (simple icon layout doesn't mean much as it could be corrected, were talking bigger changes than this that would require a totally new front-end.)

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ubit Member since:
2006-09-08

The vertical sidebar with the little icons is the worst part, it's so strange to see home split up from the rest of the other "services" as they call them. They're so resistant to remove that damn sidebar too, I remember requesting to make it a bit more sane like Xandros/Corel's File Manager ( http://distrowatch.lafox.net/images/screenshots/xandros-file-manage... ) but they seem to like it. Fine with me but I can't make it look any nicer or more usable myself. Plus the ubiquitous buttons and menu items everywhere (makes Konqueror as a web browser hard for me to use at all, too).

I'm personally glad dolphin will be a new file manager, yippe ;)

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