Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 19th Feb 2007 16:49 UTC, submitted by elsewhere
GNU, GPL, Open Source "Is open source still a grassroots social movement made up of idealistic underdogs trying to revolutionize an amoral industry? Or has it become a cloak used by IT vendors large and small to disguise ruthless and self-serving behavior? Some observers argue it's the latter. Despite occasional protests from old-timers - the heated backlash against the Microsoft-Novell détente, for example - open source has become so co-opted by mainstream IT, so transformed by 'accidental open sourcers' simply looking for a better business model, that it's lost its cherished moral edge."
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dylansmrjones
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2005-10-02

The wikipedia article itself proves that the Socialist Left-Right scale you are using is invalid.

How come libertarians are on the right with fascists when libertarians are on the opposite side of fascism - libertarianism and liberalism is the opposite pole of totalitarian systems like fascism.

That Left-Right scale was invented by Socialist due to their particular view on property. Libertarianism shares no elements with fascism and is a such on the opposite side, so we cannot be right. We also share no elements with the left, so we are not in the left, and the centrum is Social-Liberalism, so we are not there either.

Ergo: The whole spectrum is anti-individualistic and can only be used to define positions for socialistic and totalitarian movements, while individual movements have no room in that flawed and invalid Left-Right scale.

The wikipedia article does not say that this scale is the right scale, just that the terms left-right can relate to many different things - depending on the scale.

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SReilly Member since:
2006-12-28

It is you that has the wrong idea about left/right-wing politics.

What follows is the dictionary definition of left/right-wing politics as agreed to by what seems like everybody but you.

Left-wing
1. The people and groups who advocate liberal, often radical measures to effect change in the established order, especially in politics, usually to achieve the equality, freedom, and well-being of the common citizens of a state. Also called left wing.
2. The opinion of those advocating such measures.

Right-wing
1. The people and groups who advocate the adoption of conservative or reactionary measures, especially in government and politics. Also called right wing.
2. The opinion of those advocating such measures.

Your education is severely laking and you, Sir, are not only advocating revisionism but are also reaching. Your political naivety is the main reason for your confusion, it seems. There is no way that property or economics have anything to do with why the left/right scale is depicted this way. You can bury your head in the sand and blame Socialist but that won't change anything.

Face it, you don't have a clue and neither are you an Anarchist.

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

That model is the SOCIALIST model (that's why socialists calls everybody esle for reactionary). It is a relative model and irrelevant. What is left in one time is right in a different time and what is left in one country is right in a different country. Utterly useless and fake. With that model Nazism can only be considered as left since they want to use radical measures to change the established order for the well-being of the common citizens as they define it. Communism can also be considered Right and Reactionary in a society where Communism is the established order. Utterly useless and a perfect example of the eeky relativism used by dictators on the Left.

I use a model based on the rights granted to the individual. This is an absolute model and what is Left today was Left three centuries ago and will be Left tomorrow. What is Left in India is Left in Denmark and is Left in all the Universe.

I am an Individual Anarchist. We support Direct Democracy, while you as a Collective (or Borg) Anarchist put the Collective above the individual. Your "Direct Democracy" is a misnomer, since Democracy is the idea of the individual having the right to make its own decisions. With your style of Direct "Democracy" the individual has no rights unless everybody else agrees. This is Direct Decisionmaking, but it is not Democracy.

You are so full of it. You don't know what Direct Democracy means, you don't respect the individual and you put the collective above the individual. There is no difference between your Left Anarchism and Fascism. Both put the Collective above the Individual.

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