Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 4th Mar 2007 13:56 UTC, submitted by danwarne
Windows "A genuine crack for Windows Vista has just been released by pirate group Pantheon, which allows a pirated, non-activated installation of Vista (Home Basic/Premium and Ultimate) to be properly activated and made fully-operational. Unlike cracks which have been floating around since Vista RTM was released in late November, this crack doesn't simply get around product activation with beta activation files or timestop cracks - it actually makes use of the activation process."
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Alleister
Member since:
2006-05-29

I have seen it for 250€ (329$) but that is the OEM Version. The drawback of the OEM Version is that you have to decide if you want the 32 bit version or the 64 bit version, because only the retail version includes both.

Maybe we germans get butfu**ed extreastrong here, but it is much nore expensive everywhere outside the US than it is over there. But anyway, even 300$ would be outrageous for Vista since it realy doesn't come with that many new features.

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Kokopelli Member since:
2005-07-06

Perhaps the cost is significantly higher in Germany, but the full, non-oem, version of Vista Ultimate is $379 US at Amazon.com. Chances are it could be found cheaper elsewhere. Where did you find it for sale at $699 US?

Personally I think $379 is too expensive as well, but I will exercise my right not to buy it. I strongly dislike illegal copying of software.

EDIT: It is EUR 499 ($658 US) at Amazon.de, ouch. I still argue that it is motivation not to buy the product, not a justification to pirate it.

Edited 2007-03-04 15:04

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h times nue equals e Member since:
2006-01-21

amazon.de has Vista OEM for roughly 185€ (OEM, 32 or 64 Bits) and the full non-OEM for about 499€. I can't comment on the availability of cheaper regular non-OEM versions here in Austria or Germany, but most local vendors I am aware of have the full Vista Ultimate advertised with prices starting at 500€ and settling at around 549€, leading to a pretty consistent and (if you allow me this personal statement) mind boggling high price-range of roughly (converted using[1])
657 - 724 USD.

My take on this is, that there is only a very limited market here in Austria for non-OEM versions of MS operating systems. Joe/Jane Doe kind of home users usually either settle for the OEM version that comes together with their computer or have a "computer expert" among their friends/relatives anyway, who supplies them with a "pirated"[*] version of a more capable /less restricted MS operating system (an astonishing high number of individuals run Windows 2000 Professional as their operating system, without having ever paid for it). SMEs rely on their existing computer support or volume pricing schemes from larger resellers or MS direct to get (OEM) versions and - judging from my experience - usually do not care whether they have an OEM version or not, as long as they can run their tools on it.

The only people I know who have actually bought the non-OEM version of MS operating systems in the past were individual contractors/freelancers/etc. who can't run pirated copies due to their occupation and are outside the usual corporate sales channels, and enthusiasts. This groups will pay the price of Vista ultimate without much bitching and the rest of the crowd can maybe now get their hands (at least temporarily) on a copy of Vista Ulitmate without paying a cent beyond the cost of the DVD+-R media.

While I'm not as familiar with the situation in Germany, I have a feeling, that it is not much different there.

Disclaimer: I'm against software "piracy"[*] and I have for the last three years refused to provide tech support for individuals who run "pirated"[*] copies of operating systems or applications, simply because this usually hurts the competion more than the market leader/nearly monopolist.

[1] http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi

[*]Personally, I find the usage of the word "pirate" for people who distribute non-genuine copies of operating systems pretty pathetic. Still, the mental image of buccaneers with parrots on their shoulders who are sitting on the deck of a ship with a blowing jolly rogers on top and try to crack Vista Ultimate on their shiny new notebooks is amusing at least

Edited 2007-03-04 16:12

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Alleister Member since:
2006-05-29

I found it at a local "Media Markt" the biggest electronics franchise shop in germany.

I don't use pirated software (especially not pirated OSes) so i simply won't use Vista. So far i found quite a lot of software replacements for Linux and for the rest i will have to stick with XP or switch to Mac in a couple of years.

I just can't believe those Vista prices...

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Anonymous Penguin Member since:
2005-07-06

"Maybe we germans get butfu**ed extreastrong here,"

It is the same price here in Italy, and I have read that in Ireland Ultimate costs around 600€.
With the same money you can build a new computer, put Debian (or any other distro) on it and live happy.
Or buy a Mac Mini, including OS X.

Edited 2007-03-04 15:08

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zombie process Member since:
2005-07-08

Or feed a family of four for several weeks.

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