Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 4th Mar 2007 13:58 UTC, submitted by michuk
Window Managers "The performance of desktop computers increases year by year. This gives the programmers great opportunities to further improve the desktop experience of the users. However, what should you do when you have an old computer that is not capable of running the latest and hottest software? How can you benefit from the great software that is X.org when you can't run a desktop that takes advantage of its best features? No need for upgrading your PC, when you can have a usable alternative with the current one. Let me introduce you to Enlightenment E17 - the window manager with minimal hardware requirements that may amaze you."
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The problem with E17 et al is:
by deb2006 on Sun 4th Mar 2007 16:41 UTC
deb2006
Member since:
2006-06-26

I really like Enlightenment... BUT: There seems very little progress. With KDE and Gnome you can really feel how they progress quite rapidly (Gnome releases every 6 months, KDE is almost at 4.0). With E17 et al it is different. Now it's _almost_ at 0.17 - how long have they been with 0.16? Years and years.

Almafeta Member since:
2007-02-22

In their defense, the article does mention that E17 was rewritten completely from scratch. This would probably explain both the long development time and the significant differences in performance compared to E16.

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

"""In their defense, the article does mention that E17 was rewritten completely from scratch."""

If that's "in their defense" I'd shudder to hear your criticisms.

Yet another confirmation of the valuable truth outlined in this article:

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

In their defense, the article does mention that E17 was rewritten completely from scratch.

Why? I really shudder when people think it's just OK to rewrite something from scratch to achieve some totally false sense of purity.

Additionally, the person writing this article just doesn't understand the differences between a window manager like shell and a full desktop environment like KDE or Gnome. If you look in Enlightenment you will find no development infrastructure and nothing like kdelibs or slaves. That's what makes a real desktop environment, and you can't just take a window manager like Enlightenment with some cool looking effects and claim it's better than anything else.

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CodeMonkey Member since:
2005-09-22

Actually that's the very reason for the Enlightenment Foundation Libraries. The EFL is an entire development infrastructure like the kdelibs. This is one of the primary reasons that the development effort has taken so long. They have gone for a new approach of building an entire set of libraries and toolkits and then building the window manager on top of that. This set of libraries and toolkits (EFL) can also be used to build applications designed to seamlessly integrate with Enlightenment window manager.

http://www.enlightenment.org/Libraries/Overview/

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de_wizze Member since:
2005-10-31

Another thing to keep in mind they don't have that many developers, and those that do work on it aren't necessarily paid for what they do. They have other obligations. I think if they were to be sponsored more would come of it.

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