Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Mar 2007 23:05 UTC
.NET (dotGNU too) Microsoft said it will soon release a new version of its Visual Studio toolset for Windows Vista development. Jay Roxe, group product manager for Visual Studio, said Microsoft will introduce a new release of the Visual Studio targeting Vista development, known as Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Update for Windows Vista, as soon as March 5 but possibly as late as March 12 depending on when internal developers clear the code for general use.
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** Who cares???***
by latte on Tue 6th Mar 2007 03:57 UTC
latte
Member since:
2006-07-19

Like everything else MS does, it'll be junk, and it'll cost a mint...

I use a great little IDE called "Geany" (Google and you'll find it). Simple but very nicely done.

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RE: ** Who cares???***
by flanque on Tue 6th Mar 2007 05:18 in reply to "** Who cares???***"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

Uhem, Visual Studio is the most advanced and rapid development environments today. Nothing compares to it. That's an opinion shared by tens if not hundreds of thousands.

As for cost, you're generalising in a big way. Not everything costs a mint. You should check out IE, Virual PC, the entire Express range of Visual Studio environments and much more on the Microsoft website.

Your views on junk are pure opinion without any factual basis. Very few people pay for junk, yet Microsoft is worth billions annually. That cannot be all marketing and brain dead users buying the software blindly.

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by bailey86 on Tue 6th Mar 2007 08:39 in reply to "RE: ** Who cares???***"
RE[2]: ** Who cares???***
by Mordakk on Tue 6th Mar 2007 13:50 in reply to "RE: ** Who cares???***"
Mordakk Member since:
2007-03-06

Uhem, Visual Studio is the most advanced and rapid development environments today. Nothing compares to it. That's an opinion shared by tens if not hundreds of thousands.

I haven't used other tools besides VS to develop .NET apps (its not my choice which tools my company uses). Sure the C# text editor part of the IDE has some nice features but the project build support is far behind that of C++ projects. It has some surprising limitations that I would hope other IDE vendors don't have.

There is no way to pass compiler command line arguments to the C# compiler. There is no way to even specify pre- and post-build events per configuration (debug,release,etc). There is no way to specify different /reference's per configuration. All of these things are easy with C++ and C++/CLI projects.

These complaints might seem petty but I cannot build my application because of them and have to resort to makefiles.

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by Almafeta on Tue 6th Mar 2007 15:12 in reply to "RE: ** Who cares???***"
Almafeta Member since:
2007-02-22

You should check out IE, Virual PC, the entire Express range of Visual Studio environments and much more on the Microsoft website.

As an aside, do you think an article/review about my experiences with Virtual PC would make a good article for OSNews?

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by MORB on Tue 6th Mar 2007 15:23 in reply to "RE: ** Who cares???***"
MORB Member since:
2005-07-06

"That's an opinion shared by tens if not hundreds of thousands."

You know what they say about flies, their demographics and their culinary habits.

I'll rely on my own experience of using this thing daily. And this experience says that this is a piece of garbage that is used only because "you'll never be blamed for choosing microsoft" - and also because it's the only tool that can really be used to develop on their shit os.

This service pack is awesome, by the way. It takes an hour to install. This speaks volume about the complete incompetency of microsoft developer's. Those guys have no notion of managing a bunch of data in a way that scale.

I'm now heading toward a complete reinstallation of this marvelous tool because it fails to compile anything now, by the way. Business as usual.

I tried to check the knowledge base url mentioned in the about box, which is hilariously non existing.

Keep up the good work guys.

Edited 2007-03-06 15:29

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