Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Mar 2007 23:08 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft Office program manager Brian Jones, whose work has centered around the Open XML document format, now says the so-called format war with OpenDocument is officially over. The winner, he says, is both. Jones made the statement in a blog post over the weekend following the release by Novell of an Open XML translator for OpenOffice. The plug-in enables the free, open source productivity suite to open documents created in the Microsoft format, as well as saving OpenDocument files into Open XML.
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RE[11]: because they lost...
by nberardi on Wed 7th Mar 2007 21:59 UTC in reply to "RE[10]: because they lost..."
nberardi
Member since:
2005-07-10

No, it isn't. .Net is just a wrapper around various Windows specific implementations, just as OOXML is, and it is patented one at that. There is nothing defined within .Net that gives you a functioning and Microsoft .Net compatible environment environment at all (or even a complete bloody CLR), unless you come up with your own underlying implementations and reverse engineer Microsoft's own.

Actually you are totally wrong. Do a search for ROTOR and you will see that it is a BSD release of the mscorlib, compiler, and CLR.

You know what they say about people who assume don't you.

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RE[12]: because they lost...
by segedunum on Thu 8th Mar 2007 16:52 in reply to "RE[11]: because they lost..."
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Actually you are totally wrong. Do a search for ROTOR and you will see that it is a BSD release of the mscorlib, compiler, and CLR.

Rotor is absolutely useless because it doesn't provide a CLR (it lacks the classes to provide one), or even provide a framework. It doesn't actually do anything. It also has a license that restricts it tightly to being used for educational and academic purposes. It is not under a BSD license at all, but one of Microsoft's Shared Source ones.

You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about. I also don't see why the above proves that .Net is not just a wrapper around various Windows components.

Edited 2007-03-08 17:05

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RE[13]: because they lost...
by nberardi on Thu 8th Mar 2007 19:27 in reply to "RE[12]: because they lost..."
nberardi Member since:
2005-07-10

You are wrong again, it provides the basic mscorlib. Also ROTOR 2.0 is under Microsoft's Shared Source, but ROTOR 1.0 is under BSD.

Browse it for your self:
http://www.123aspx.com/rotor/Default.aspx

You tell me how many Windows wrappers you can fine. I bet it is NONE because ROTOR 1.0 ran under FreeBSD.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3A1C93FA-7...

Quote from the site - The Shared Source CLI is a compressed archive of the source code to a working implementation of the ECMA CLI and the ECMA C# language specification. This implementation builds and runs on Windows XP, the FreeBSD operating system, and Mac OS X 10.2.

You really need to get out of your dark corner. It is not cool anymore, and venture out in to the real world where people don't just hate for the sake of hate. I don't know what happened to you that made you hate Microsoft so much, maybe it is envy of Bill Gates and his achievements, maybe you were kicked around as a kid, or maybe you are one of those people that can't get through the day with out hating somebody or something. But whatever it is you should probably seek some help.

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