Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 7th Mar 2007 22:32 UTC, submitted by twenex
KDE The KDE 4 release team started a discussion about a possible release schedule for KDE 4. Of course nothing is set yet but the topic is now hot and some interesting problems and point of views come up. In other but related news Oxygen hit the mirrors, or better, kdelibs.
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RE: KDE4 becoming reality
by Doc Pain on Thu 8th Mar 2007 00:41 UTC in reply to "KDE4 becoming reality"
Doc Pain
Member since:
2006-10-08

"The initial goals were lofty to create a robust framework, but that doesn't mean 4.0 will not be _revolutionary_ or any less amazing. KDE 4+.x will be evolutionary and refine and build off the new and better core."

Allthough KDE features a modular concept, it will still be consuming much HDD space and CPU time. But who cares, we have enough from both of them. :-)

"The move to CMake and QT4 are reason enough to be exited."

I see CMake and Qt4 as a good base for new applications that will promote Linux as a desktop platform. We'll see if developers and users can benefit from it.

"To the BSD whiners: reality is that most people don't used BSD desktops."

Yes, that may be true, but there are people who use BSD desktops, especially those who use DesktopBSD and PC-BSD which come with KDE by default. (Personally, I use BSD as a desktop platform, but not with KDE.)

"Can you really expect mainly Linux oriented KDE devs to know and fix all? I'm certain the KDE project would benefit from your patches and fixes for these problems, so please do something about it if it is that big of an itch to scratch. After all this is free open source software."

You're right. Maybe the developers of PC-BSD and DesktopBSD will help to improve this situation.

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RE[2]: KDE4 becoming reality
by kaiwai on Thu 8th Mar 2007 01:33 in reply to "RE: KDE4 becoming reality"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

You're right. Maybe the developers of PC-BSD and DesktopBSD will help to improve this situation.

I have a feeling that you'll find that most of the effort will be going into the integration of KDE 4.0 and BSD - KDE 3.x is coming to the end of its existance, and it makes little or no sense tying up resources adding features to 3.x when 4.x is going to be coming with in 6months, and will most likely hang around for another 2 2/1 years before another abi/api break.

With that being said, however, FreeBSD 7.x will provide an interesting backdrop to *NIX on the desktop; Xorg, FreeBSD 7.x, drivers being ported over like Intel 3945abg support, hopefully improved Nvidia support.

Edit: Kneed your paws with delight like a kitten; FreeBSD now has Intel firmware distribution rights! http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/03/prweb509818.htm

Edited 2007-03-08 01:35

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dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Have you tried GNUstep? It has very excellent support in FreeBSD. Better than most (perhaps all) Linux distributions.

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RE[3]: KDE4 becoming reality
by Doc Pain on Thu 8th Mar 2007 14:36 in reply to "RE[2]: KDE4 becoming reality"
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

"Have you tried GNUstep? It has very excellent support in FreeBSD. Better than most (perhaps all) Linux distributions."

Nice you mentioned it! Yes, I have. I feel familiar with ObjectiveC (because I prefer C oder C++, and ObjC feels like something as an OO wrapper around C while C++ and C# are completely different languages) and like the clean and professional look, which is a good "selling argument" if it's up to professional software solutions (such as testing, diagnostics, data archiving and processing in clinical psychology / psychiatry).

Another thing that makes it superior (I hope I'm not insulting anyone with the use of this word) to KDE 3 and 4 is that it has very low hardware requirements. This'll make a GNUstep based product attractive for those who do not want to buy a whole new computer park.

One problem could be the field of crossplattformimg, i. e. using GNUstep applications on Solaris and MacOS X...

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