"Last week, the Gentoo project entered the lowest point of its 7-year old existence. The single most telling statement attesting to this fact is this brief excerpt from the current issue of Gentoo Weekly News. 'The following developers recently joined the Gentoo project: Daniel Robbins; the following developers recently left the Gentoo project: Daniel Robbins' Yes, this is the same Daniel Robbins who founded Gentoo Linux back in the year 2000 and who left the project in 2004 for personal reasons. He officially re-joined the Gentoo development team two weeks ago - only to resign a few days later. The reason? Strong personal attacks by some of the current developers of the project."
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Member since:2006-09-27
..Hmm, interesting 
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Date: 2007-03-04 20:36:59 GMT
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 01:17:03PM -0700, Daniel Robbins wrote:
> Yep, I agree. Thanks everyone for being tolerant of >my confusion and disruption while I look for a way to >remove Ciaran from gentoo-dev.
Stop it. You don't like him, fine. I personally don't like you, no problem. And many people hate me, good too.
Please go back to your hacking and improve Gentoo. You just can't 'remove Ciaran from gentoo-dev', live with it, or leave Gentoo if you don't like the way we do things now.
- ferdy
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Date: 2007-03-04 20:44:28 GMT
That's actually a very good idea. I definitely don't want to be associated with this project.
-Daniel
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Member since:2005-10-31
It would seem to me that drobbins as fallen victim to the script-kiddie developers that Gentoo nurtured over time. What seemed like a a valid attempt to bring focus and scope to disruptive bantering between separate projects backfired when faced with flame throwing immature personalities. I think trying to ban the guy might have been misplaced effort with what might have been good intent but as I said before what you have is developers who may not have the experience or understanding that maintaining and establishing a separation of concerns[1] is something to be sought after.
[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_concerns
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2007-03-12
> > "Strong personal attacks by some of the current developers of the project."
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> ^
> That's not fair...
Actually, it was a quarrel with Ciaran McCreesh, ex-developer, that resulted in Daniel Robbins' resignation. Ciaran is considered by some current developers as a trollish person.
I was an active Gentoo user and proponent for ~3 years, but eventually I moved (back) to Debian and Ubuntu some months ago. Still, this stream of events really saddened me.
The thread that started all this can be found here:
* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46339
Look at this too:
* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46339/focus=46404
* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46339/focus=46467
* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46339/focus=46482
* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46339/focus=46496
And finally:
* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46478/focus=46489
* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46478/focus=46491
* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46478/focus=46495
* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46478/focus=46498
Plus, another developer has left for the same reasons:
* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46478/focus=46500
* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46478/focus=46503
Summing up:
"300 messages, two developers, and 17 cups of coffee later..
* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/46339/focus=46555