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RE[4]: release
by diegocg on Wed 14th Mar 2007 23:38 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: release"
diegocg
Member since:
2005-07-08

I think some users are just so conditioned to the idea that CD burning is provided by a third party application that they don't even notice the integrated solution if it stares them right at their face.


Right, that maybe the problem - which may befixable which just adding a "CD Burner" icon in the apps menu that opens the cd burning folder. But. "Usability" is about people being able to use software, so if they can't find what they want despite of being there...there's a usability problem IMO.

For example, you may argue that the "places -> cd burner" menu is "usable". But why should users think of the cd burner as a "place"? And what happens when you've a CD inserted?: You've the cd menu entry, AND the burner entry. IOW, there're *two* menu entries for the same physical thing. And that apparently confuses users.

And then, there's the nautilus burning interface: A "virtual" directory. Sure, you and me know that you should copy & paste the files there. There's only a not-clickable "burn" button. Nothing informs users that they're inside of a "burning app". It shouldn't be to hard to put a small text there: "Drop here the files that you want to burn" or something.

And then, when they move around the directories and they want to return to the CD burning app...how to do it? You can do it, but it's not easy for novice users.


IOW, I think that the nautilus burning interface is just not intuitive. It's very brave to try unify the cd burning app with the file manager, but unless you make things easier, users are not going to use it.

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RE[5]: release
by SlackerJack on Thu 15th Mar 2007 02:28 in reply to "RE[4]: release"
SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

Well when you put a blank CD in it prompts you then opens up nautilus. I think people are going way to far with this, it's not like XP intergrated burning is obvious to.

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RE[6]: release
by pandronic on Thu 15th Mar 2007 10:18 in reply to "RE[5]: release"
pandronic Member since:
2006-05-18

It's not like anyone uses XP's integrated burning, either.

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RE[5]: release
by abraxas on Thu 15th Mar 2007 14:29 in reply to "RE[4]: release"
abraxas Member since:
2005-07-07

And then, there's the nautilus burning interface: A "virtual" directory. Sure, you and me know that you should copy & paste the files there. There's only a not-clickable "burn" button. Nothing informs users that they're inside of a "burning app". It shouldn't be to hard to put a small text there: "Drop here the files that you want to burn" or something.

The nautilus burning interface is very similar to the XP interface. So if people are having problems with Gnome then they most certainly have problems with XP. I don't think it is too confusing considering there is a big "write to disk" button in the window. That being said I prefer using Brasero. I am used to having another program to burn CD/DVDs with.

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RE[6]: release
by dagw on Thu 15th Mar 2007 16:24 in reply to "RE[5]: release"
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

I've met several windows user who had no idea that XP could burn CDs out of the box, so as such I'd say that XP does not have a good CD burning interface and should not be emulated.

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RE[6]: release
by pcdoctor on Fri 16th Mar 2007 20:59 in reply to "RE[4]: release"
pcdoctor Member since:
2007-03-05

I'm pretty much an idiot when it comes to working my Ubuntu/Linux drive...
so I asked on the LinuxForums.org site about a suitable burner for Ubu,
and installed whatever it was they recommended (couldn't even call its name now!)
Took one look at its decidedly UN-intuitive interface,
couldn't figure out what the hell to do,
and forgot about it, and haven't returned!

Nowadays, when I want to burn something, I fire up the XP drive, and use NERO, which I know and understand.

WHEN will the Linux ppl come around to the reality that 90% of us idiot computer users are NOT geek-types?
We want/demand INTUITIVE, not dorky!

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RE[7]: release
by sbergman27 on Sun 18th Mar 2007 00:56 in reply to "RE[6]: release"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Are you talking about just burning files, mp3s, oggs, etc. to a cd?

If so, just put the blank CD or DVD in the drive, wait for the CD/DVD Creator window that will pop up, drag your files or folders to it, and click the "Write to disc" button.

You don't have to download any apps that you don't find intuitive to do it.

If you are using rewritable media and it already has something on it, you will have to go to Places->CD/DVD creator to pop up the window. It will ask to confirm that you want to erase what is already on it.

If you are wanting to burn an iso image directly, just right click on the image file and select "Write to disc".

The only thing that this facility will not do for you is burn an old fashioned music CD. For that you need to use a different app.

Hope this helps!

-Steve

Edited 2007-03-18 01:00

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