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Gnome "Today, the GNOME Project celebrates the release of GNOME 2.18, the latest version of the popular, multi-platform Free desktop environment." The GNOME 2.18 start page has all the details, such as release notes, download locations, and screenshots.
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RE[2]: You know what I miss?
by superstoned on Thu 15th Mar 2007 10:43 UTC in reply to "RE: You know what I miss?"
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2005-07-07

What are they waiting for, then? Except for usability, they're still playing catch-up to KDE 3.5, and 4.0 is coming. There are external projects offering things like compiz and beagle, but they still aren't part of gnome. Well, tracker will be, for 2.20, that's a good thing. But will that be enough? I don't see them adding grammar & style checking, or any 'next generation desktop' stuff.

I loved the Lisa screenshots some time ago, they showed how the desktop indeed hasn't changed since 1985... And I really miss the ambition at Gnome. I won't use it, of course, big KDE fan, but KDE will need some real competition on the free desktop, and as far as I can see, Gnome won't be it... Maybe Enlightenment, but they've been in alpha for ages.

It probably won't matter how good gnome is or not, the big distro's are so entrenched, they'll deliver it as their desktop, even though they won't ever get ahead on MS that way. But it's limiting for the average Linux user, imho.

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RE[3]: You know what I miss?
by thebluesgnr on Thu 15th Mar 2007 11:27 in reply to "RE[2]: You know what I miss?"
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2005-11-14

I loved the Lisa screenshots some time ago, they showed how the desktop indeed hasn't changed since 1985... And I really miss the ambition at Gnome.

What's the point of completely changing the desktop when you can't even use WiFi without hassle?

And by the way, desktop experimentation is not something you'll see on an official GNOME release, but rather on related projects like Gimmie, Avant, Sugar, etc.

A big difference between GNOME and KDE is that these experiments are done in parallel in GNOME. For example, the KDE panel is pretty much dead, with "Plasma" set to replace it. But people still have no idea what Plasma will look like and whether it will work (and they won't know until they test it on real people).

On the other hand, the GNOME project will only decide to replace its panel (which has problems, but works) with something else after a new candidate has seen testing. That's how metacity replaced sawfish in GNOME 2.2, for example. And there are people working on ambitious new ideas, as I mentioned above (the GNOME-based "Sugar" UI is definitely the most ambitious one today).

KDE 4 is very broken today (is pre-alpha the official definition?). GNOME will most likely never be in that state again.

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RE[4]: You know what I miss?
by leos on Thu 15th Mar 2007 15:23 in reply to "RE[3]: You know what I miss?"
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2005-09-21

KDE 4 is very broken today (is pre-alpha the official definition?). GNOME will most likely never be in that state again.

So you're saying the system architecture of Gnome 2.x is the ultimate possible, and will never need to change? Sorry, but if you want to make something better in a fundamental way, you have to break it first. Either that or create a lot of compatibility layers to keep the old API, and only Microsoft has the resources to do that.

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