Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 15th Mar 2007 15:30 UTC, submitted by AdamW
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris Mandriva is pleased to announce the release of the first release candidate for Mandriva Linux 2007 Spring. Spring features a raft of improvements and enhancements over its predecessors, including the latest software, extended support for the latest 3D desktop technologies (including Metisse), enhanced and improved system configuration and software installation tools, better hardware support, and a new look. The official announcement includes all the details on this release candidate, what you will find in it, and where to download it.
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RE: Glibc 2.5?
by Wemgadge on Thu 15th Mar 2007 17:16 UTC in reply to "Glibc 2.5?"
Wemgadge
Member since:
2005-07-02

Mandriva made some changes to their release cycle. They had dropped the 6 month release cycle originally about concerns that they were too bleeding edge and often too quick to add new features without sufficient testing (remember Kat?). Now they have gone to a "service pack" style release cycle. They are releasing a completely new base system once a year, and upgrading the desktop and utilities twice a year. So the kernel and base system will be refreshed at the release of Mandriva 2008.

This is a true point release to bring in the new features of Gnome and KDE and the 3D gadgets without breaking compatiblity.

Glibc is part of base.

I have been running the beta for a couple of weeks now and it fixes A LOT of bugs and annoyances that I had had with 2007.0

Edited 2007-03-15 17:23

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RE[2]: Glibc 2.5?
by WorknMan on Thu 15th Mar 2007 20:23 in reply to "RE: Glibc 2.5?"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

They are releasing a completely new base system once a year, and upgrading the desktop and utilities twice a year. So the kernel and base system will be refreshed at the release of Mandriva 2008.

I have been running the beta for a couple of weeks now and it fixes A LOT of bugs and annoyances that I had had with 2007.0


This could be a bad idea, with many users potentially opting to skip the initial buggy release and just wait for the service pack. Kind of like what a lot of people do with Windows ;) heh

Seriously though, I'd rather have a rock solid version once a year instead of a buggy one every six months followed by a stable one.

Edited 2007-03-15 20:24

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RE[3]: Glibc 2.5?
by xultz on Thu 15th Mar 2007 20:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Glibc 2.5?"
xultz Member since:
2006-05-09

"Seriously though, I'd rather have a rock solid version once a year instead of a buggy one every six months followed by a stable one. "
I agree with you. I cannot understand why a year release cycle can produce a buggy distro, compared to a six month cycle.
In my opinion, Mandriva have a good set of tools to install and configure the system. The package manager its great, when it works. He needs a lot of works to handled error message in a way that the user can understand whats happening (like, I have a lot of packages that he lists, and when I click over it, he says "This package cannot be installed". Why? God knows... but apart of that, its a great program too.
But, Mandriva faced that a year release cicle would produce a distro with old packages, but today the target user of Mandriva waits for a stable release, not a bleeding edge distro. I used 2005 until january of this year, and I only upgraded because I had troubles with my computer. And I miss so much 2005, he worked so good to me...

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RE[2]: Glibc 2.5?
by xultz on Thu 15th Mar 2007 20:49 in reply to "RE: Glibc 2.5?"
xultz Member since:
2006-05-09

"I have been running the beta for a couple of weeks now and it fixes A LOT of bugs and annoyances that I had had with 2007.0 "
Thank god. I am using 2007.0 on my desktop since january, and I am waiting for the next release of Ubuntu to switch. Its sad, because I am a Mandrake user since version 8.1, but since 2005, the releases became more and more buggy, a lot of packages simply dont install, and some doesnt work.

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RE[3]: Glibc 2.5?
by lezard on Thu 15th Mar 2007 21:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Glibc 2.5?"
lezard Member since:
2005-10-11

Come on!
The 2007 release is by far the most stable one I've seen (even compared to other distributions). What kind of bugs do you have?

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RE[3]: Glibc 2.5?
by Wemgadge on Thu 15th Mar 2007 21:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Glibc 2.5?"
Wemgadge Member since:
2005-07-02

"Thank god. I am using 2007.0 on my desktop since january, and I am waiting for the next release of Ubuntu to switch. Its sad, because I am a Mandrake user since version 8.1, but since 2005, the releases became more and more buggy, a lot of packages simply dont install, and some doesnt work"

go to easyurpmi and add cooker to your repo lists (it's okay to do it right now because cooker is in a freeze for the RC of 2007.1)
urpmi.update -a
urpmi --auto-select -v
Once you've run the upgrade remember to remove the cooker repositories from urpmi.

Then, when 2007.1 is released in the next month or so add the new repos for the new release and repeat to complete the upgrade.

If you choose to switch to Ubuntu, I wish you well. It is also a very good distro.

To clarify, 2007.0 wasn't really a buggy release if you ran it stock. My issues were related to KDE 3.5.4 running the Baghira theme (from PLF RPM). When I upgraded to KDE 3.5.6 my issues with Baghira went away.

I really should have made that clear in my original post. 2007.0 has been one of the best Mandriva releases that I have used, and I have been using Mandrake/Mandriva for over 4 years now as my main system.

The bugs I had didn't reflect badly on the distro.

Edited 2007-03-15 21:45

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RE[2]: Glibc 2.5?
by renox on Fri 16th Mar 2007 09:36 in reply to "RE: Glibc 2.5?"
renox Member since:
2005-07-06

> concerns that they were too bleeding edge and often too quick to add new features without sufficient testing

Well, I'd say that this is still the case: in 2007.0 they added Xgl without any usability testing, I'd say: the Expose effect (activated by default when you choose Xgl) is activated when you put your mouse in the 'right upper' corner of the screen, which is also where are the controls to close a window, so nearly each time I want to close a window, the Expose effect is activated..

Easy to deactivate of course, but a good indicator of the (not very good) state of the usability of Linux desktops: features bundled together with little thinking about the interactions.

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