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Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu During my 8 years of Linux on and off usage I have tried more distros than I have chocolate bars. Each one of my previous encounters meant that I had to spend at least 2 days configuring before I have a desktop that I was somewhat comfortable with. With Ubuntu Feisty Fawn's latest test beta --for the first time ever-- this was not the case. I was up and running with all the niceties I wanted within 2 hours.
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Xorg 7.3
by ubit on Sat 17th Mar 2007 08:21 UTC
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2006-09-08

RE: henrik73 Remember that X11 for a long time languished as XFree86, and only recently X.org has made some huge advances in compositing, drivers, modularity, etc.

Xorg 7.3 (slated for this summer/fall) is said to bring auto-configuration/hotplugging/easy dual-monitor setup/etc to X11. Ubuntu is also working on a way for X to be safe, called BulletProofX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BulletProofX

The current failsafe driver however is vesa of course, easily accessed in debian systems with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

In fact I think there's a package known as "envy" which delivers some failsafe X features for NVidia binary driver installations.

Edited 2007-03-17 08:29

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RE: Xorg 7.3
by Doc Pain on Sat 17th Mar 2007 22:06 in reply to "Xorg 7.3"
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2006-10-08

"Xorg 7.3 (slated for this summer/fall) is said to bring auto-configuration/hotplugging/easy dual-monitor setup/etc to X11."

I'm looking forward to see these improvements, they are what the newbie and average users are expecting. But I would also like to see X's ability to be maintained by SSH command line dialog keeping alive. Especially for older hardware, you often need to override malfunctioning autodetection, i. e. setting monitor frequencies, resolution and color depth by hand, so in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. So it would be great to have a choice, such as command line options to force the use of a certain configuration file, or a command line option for having everything autodetected.

BTW, I prefer xdm (instead of gdm and kdm). This is just a security issue: If you enter a password, kdm displays ****** making it possible to know the password's length; xdm displays nothing, just like the standard login program. As it should be. Furthermore, kdm can be used to override security barriers (users without password, auto login user without password etc.), but that's exactly what Joe Q. Sixpack wants to have at home. Of course, he does not own a multi-user system.

As it has been mentioned somewhere before, /usr/X11R6 will be merged into /usr/local, so all installed applications that do not come with the OS are inside /usr/local, while the rest is just the OS itself (excluding mountpoints and /home partition(s) here).

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RE[2]: Xorg 7.3
by NeoChaosX on Sun 18th Mar 2007 17:23 in reply to "RE: Xorg 7.3"
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2005-07-06

BTW, I prefer xdm (instead of gdm and kdm). This is just a security issue: If you enter a password, kdm displays ****** making it possible to know the password's length;

Just FYI, but KDM has an option to show either one star, three stars, or show no echo at all.

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